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Sun, 27 Aug 2023 13:16:27 +0000 From: "Fraga, Eric" To: Ihor Radchenko CC: Bastien Guerry , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Subject: Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -8.40 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 461765CBFE X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.40 X-TUID: 1IZVSdgyf1dj On Saturday, 26 Aug 2023 at 12:30, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > That will indeed work. But then the todo will not appear in agenda. Indeed. Luckily, for me, I don't tend to want the actions within my long documents to be listed in my agenda. Essentially, I have global todo items (which appear in my agenda) and document (aka project) specific ones which I only care about when working on that document (project). But... > I think that a combination of drawers/special blocks + ability to > assign todos/tags to paragraphs/tables/drawers/etc may give people > what they usually need when using inlinetasks. Yes, this capability would give the flexibility people want or need. --=20 : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.6.6-412-g2f7b35 in Emacs 30.0.50=