From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paul Rudin Subject: Re: OT: Gmail and cloud-dependencies Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 12:14:36 +0000 Message-ID: <86y4p9345v.fsf@rudin.co.uk> References: <87k31acov5.fsf@pierrot.dokosmarshall.org> <99D74CD0-215E-463F-86BE-21BD99809341@agrarianresearch.org> <2014-12-31T11-24-01@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <2014-12-31T14-37-55@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <87fvbvonrp.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <2015-01-01T17-21-17@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <87wq55cv2d.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <874ms99slv.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <2015-01-02T17-46-25@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <86oaqg8f79.fsf@rudin.co.uk> <2015-01-11T11-44-39@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Karl Voit writes: > * Paul Rudin wrote: >> Karl Voit writes: >> >>> * Paul Rudin wrote: >>>> >>>> But you can pull all your email out of gmail via pop or imap, so >>>> it's not like you'll lose your emails. >>> >>> There are cases where people lost access to Gmail instantly because >>> of false accusations or idendity theft. You have to prepare *now* >>> for not losing yous emails if you don't synchronize often. >>> >> Sure, but that kind of thing could happen with pretty much any third >> party service. > > Yes. That's the point, when you do not consider open source services > as third party services. Aren't you mixing up two different things here? Suppose google were to open source all the code behind gmail. That wouldn't really change the situation for users if the service suddenly disappeared.