From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: OT: italics [was: Re: take the name of org-class event from heading] Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:39:07 -0400 Message-ID: <8498.1340408347@alphaville> References: <1340378828.20842.YahooMailNeo@web163105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <6505.1340379847@alphaville> <1340380113.19833.YahooMailNeo@web163103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <18317.1340381014@alphaville> <6946.1340403708@alphaville> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43979) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiDRZ-0007cy-D2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:39:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiDRX-0005m1-HV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:39:12 -0400 Received: from g4t0014.houston.hp.com ([15.201.24.17]:32811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiDRX-0005lr-Ap for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:39:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message from Charles Philip Chan of "Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:45:49 EDT." List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Charles Philip Chan Cc: Org-mode Charles Philip Chan wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: > > > That may be because of the dotage of my mail reader of course (mh-e), > > so I was wondering if there are any *emacs* mail readers[fn:1] that > > show the effect? I doubt at this point that I'll ever switch to > > e.g. gnus to read mail (mh-e and I have grown old together), but I am > > curious whether something like it handles things properly.[fn:2] > > The Italic is not showing up in Gnus either. This is because the OP is > not using "mail markup", i.e. /This is Italic/. IMHO, I don't see the > point of not using ">" as the cite mark- anything else will confuse 99% > of mailers. This is why I gave up on Supercite. > Thanks for checking and I agree fully with using a quoting mechanism that will survive the arbitrary travails that a typical mail message goes through, although "> " is generally used for quoting points one responds to - see above e.g. I like boxquotes for things like Info snippets, variable/function docstrings and FAQ entries. That's inconvenient for code that somebody might want to cut-and-paste in order to run however (one would need to edit it to get it back into runnable form), so I use the Message function message-mark-inserted-region to quote code. To go back to the italics question though, the italics is part of the font style spec in the html form of the mail (hence my suspicion that Thunderbird would not have a problem with that message), so I guess the question is if there is an emacs mail reader that will interpret arbitrary HTML markup, the way that T-bird would. I also did the following experiment: I saved the HTML form of the mail (decoding it from quoted-printable to HTML with qprint) and looked at it in Firefox (got italics: no surprise), and in w3m in emacs (with the oblique capable Liberaion font I mentioned previously, which *can* show italics): I get no italics in the latter, so I guess even w3m cannot interpret arbitrary HTML, maybe because the underlying browser is supposed to be text-only, so font style information does not get through. Nick