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From: Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Vladimir Panteleev <git@thecybershadow.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of quotes in arguments
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:03:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8258182a-5d7e-d8c9-96c2-1a76dd9e143c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87605yn4x3.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Hi,

On 2018-03-14 13:49, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow@gmail.com> writes:
>> I agree that it is strange. I mentioned it (and its strangeness) in
>> the cover-letter. The documentation of org-sbe describes it as well.
> 
> AFAICT, it doesn't. "org-sbe" describes a dollar _prefix_, but yours
> stands on its own. It prefixes nothing.

I wrote about this in the cover letter too. $"foo" and $ "foo" are both 
the same thing. In both cases, they are two distinct lisp tokens. The 
way $ is presented as a string/reference "prefix" is through convention 
only.

Or are you objecting on stylistic grounds, that the test case from my 
patch doesn't follow the convention of omitting whitespace after the $ 
token, thus making it look like a prefix? This is, of course, 
subjective, but I would prefer to not perpetuate the illusion that 
$"foo" is some magical Emacs Lisp language syntax for a new kind of 
string literal, at least in the test suite.

> Also, it seems to apply only to
> cell's references, whereas your example provides a strings which is
> clearly not a reference. I'm confused.

The references are substituted with string literals before the $-prefix 
handling occurs. This is why it doesn't work with ranges.

I agree that it is all very confusing, and there is a lot of room for 
improvement. That doesn't stand in the way of this patch series, though.

> What happens if you use (org-sbe "identity" (x ...)) instead?

No difference. As can be seen from org-sbe's implementation, the 
normalization of symbols and string literals occurs before attempting to 
resolve references.

-- 
Best regards,
  Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-07 22:58 [PATCH 0/3] org-sbe fixes Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of quotes in arguments Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-12 23:15   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-13 19:16     ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-14 13:49       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-14 14:03         ` Vladimir Panteleev [this message]
2018-03-14 15:00           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-14 16:23             ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-18 22:24               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-18 22:43                 ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-18 23:30                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-19  0:23                     ` [PATCH v2 0/3] org-sbe fixes Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19  0:23                       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of quotes in cell values Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19  0:23                       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of list arguments Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19  0:23                       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ob-table: Mention passing ranges as lists in org-sbe's documentation Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-19 23:07                       ` [PATCH v2 0/3] org-sbe fixes Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-25 18:24                         ` Alan Schmitt
2018-03-25 20:26                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-25 20:40                             ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-25 21:06                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-25 22:08                                 ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-26 20:16                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-26 21:33                                     ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-26 21:42                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-26 21:53                                         ` Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-27  6:21                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-26  8:12                                 ` Alan Schmitt
2018-03-26 21:40                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-27  1:01                                     ` Bastien
2018-03-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] ob-table: Fix org-sbe's handling of list arguments Vladimir Panteleev
2018-03-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] ob-table: Mention passing ranges as lists in org-sbe's documentation Vladimir Panteleev

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