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From: Allen Li <darkfeline@felesatra.moe>
To: No Wayman <iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] [BUG] inconsistent behavior when reading multiple tags [9.4.6 (9.4.6-g366444 @ /home/n/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 20:37:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80v936qx9s.fsf@felesatra.moe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsuhi7o2.fsf@gmail.com> (No Wayman's message of "Mon, 06 Sep 2021 19:23:36 -0400")

No Wayman <iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com> writes:
>> Yes, I think using only ":" and "," is the best default option. I
>> still
>> don't think there is a need to make it customizable (I doubt anyone
>> is
>> typing tags separated with ! or @ or #), but I suppose
>> there's minimal harm from doing so.
>
> I don't see the need to prevent customization here, either.
> There may be use cases we don't anticiapte and it adds very little in
> the way of maitenance.
> Consider if the author of crm.el decided to hardcode the separator.
> Your original patch would not have been so trivial.

crm.el is a library whose purpose is to provide a customizable
completion API.  That's not comparable to Org mode's tag setting commands.

>
>> I am -0.5 on showing the delimiters since this is not conventional
>> for
>> completing-read-multiple, especially after we add support for ","
>> like
>> most other uses of completing-read-multiple.  It needlessly inflates
>> the
>> length of the prompt.
>
> I don't know what you mean by -0.5, but I wouldn't say it's needless.
> `org-todo-list' adds the following to the prompt:
>
>> "Keyword (or KWD1|KWD2|...): "
>
> We're talking a handful of characters at most. e.g.
>
>> "Tags (: , to delimit): "
>
> Actually shorter than what `org-todo-list' does now.
> I'm open to suggestions on improving that prompt format as well.

-0.5 means slightly against (+1 means agree and -1 means disagree).

> So it looks like the remaining issue is whether or not it's worth
> displaying the tag delimiters in the prompt. I'll think on it some 
> more and give it some time to see if anyone else has any arguments in
> favor or against the idea. If I don't see anything by the weekend,
> I'll amend the patch with the changes suggested above.

I don't want to bikeshed it further since it is not that important and
not worth either of our time.  I have already stated my reasons that I
would personally not add these things, but it does not bother me enough,
nor is it significant enough to spend more time on.

Whether to make the delimiters customizable: No, because I don't think
there's a need.  Maybe one Org mode user will need it and they can
define their own command.

Whether to display separators in prompt: No, because both , and : are
intuitive, and also no if delimiters are customizable since the user
knows what the delimiters are (since they set them).


      reply	other threads:[~2021-09-12  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-26 17:04 [BUG] [BUG] inconsistent behavior when reading multiple tags [9.4.6 (9.4.6-g366444 @ /home/n/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] No Wayman
2021-08-31 10:17 ` Timothy
2021-09-03  2:05   ` No Wayman
2021-09-03  7:22     ` Timothy
2021-09-03 17:00       ` No Wayman
2021-09-03  6:51 ` Allen Li
2021-09-03  8:08   ` Timothy
2021-09-03 19:20     ` No Wayman
2021-09-17 17:09     ` No Wayman
2021-09-03 17:13   ` No Wayman
2021-09-03 19:42     ` No Wayman
2021-09-03 23:37       ` No Wayman
2021-09-27  8:35         ` Bastien
2021-09-27 15:19           ` No Wayman
2021-09-27 15:49             ` Bastien
2021-09-27 15:56               ` No Wayman
2021-09-06  0:48     ` Allen Li
2021-09-06 23:23       ` No Wayman
2021-09-12  3:37         ` Allen Li [this message]

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