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* Inhibit converting "--" to "–"
@ 2012-06-16 23:14 Tsunenobu Kai
  2012-06-17  1:03 ` Michael Hannon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Tsunenobu Kai @ 2012-06-16 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode ML

Hello everyone,

When I export a org file to html, string "--" in org file is converted
to "–" in html.
I want to display "--" verbatim, so could you tell me how to inhibit
converting "--"?

Thanks, sorry for stupid question
--
Tsunenobu Kai

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "–"
  2012-06-16 23:14 Inhibit converting "--" to "–" Tsunenobu Kai
@ 2012-06-17  1:03 ` Michael Hannon
  2012-06-17  2:11   ` Tsunenobu Kai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Michael Hannon @ 2012-06-17  1:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kbkbkbkb1@gmail.com, emacs-orgmode ML

> When I export a org file to html, string "--" in org file is converted to
> "–" in html.
>
> I want to display "--" verbatim, so could you tell me how to inhibit
> converting "--"?

What happens if you enclose the two dashes in equal signs?  As:

    =--=

-- Mike

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "–"
  2012-06-17  1:03 ` Michael Hannon
@ 2012-06-17  2:11   ` Tsunenobu Kai
  2012-06-17  2:18     ` Nick Dokos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Tsunenobu Kai @ 2012-06-17  2:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Hannon; +Cc: emacs-orgmode ML

Thank you for your response, Mike.

At Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:03:03 -0700 (PDT),
Michael Hannon wrote:
 > What happens if you enclose the two dashes in equal signs?  As:
 >
 >     =--=
I tried exporting =--=, then =--= is unfortunately converted to =–=
in html. Is there any other way?

If possible, I want to control it with export options in a
org file rather than markup rules.

Best regards,
Tsunenobu Kai

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "–"
  2012-06-17  2:11   ` Tsunenobu Kai
@ 2012-06-17  2:18     ` Nick Dokos
  2012-06-17  3:04       ` Tsunenobu Kai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-06-17  2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kbkbkbkb1; +Cc: Michael Hannon, emacs-orgmode ML

Tsunenobu Kai <kbkbkbkb1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your response, Mike.
> 
> At Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:03:03 -0700 (PDT),
> Michael Hannon wrote:
> > What happens if you enclose the two dashes in equal signs?  As:
> >
> >     =--=
> I tried exporting =--=, then =--= is unfortunately converted to =&ndash;=
> in html. Is there any other way?
> 

Are you sure? In my case, both =--= and ~--~ get exported to HTML as
<code>--</code> with both the old and the new exporter.

> If possible, I want to control it with export options in a
> org file rather than markup rules.
> 

I don't think that's possible.

Nick

> Best regards,
> Tsunenobu Kai
> 
> 
> 

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-17  2:18     ` Nick Dokos
@ 2012-06-17  3:04       ` Tsunenobu Kai
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Tsunenobu Kai @ 2012-06-17  3:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: Michael Hannon, emacs-orgmode ML

(2012/06/17 11:18), Nick Dokos wrote:
> Are you sure? In my case, both =--= and ~--~ get exported to HTML as
> <code>--</code> with both the old and the new exporter.
I'm sorry I made a mistake. I exported "=--=help" by mistake, and then
it was
converted "&ndash;help". "=--help=" gets exported to HTML as "--help" and
that's what I want to do.

Thank you for your help,
Kai

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
@ 2012-06-17  3:15 William Crandall
  2012-06-17 23:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-17  3:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kbkbkbkb1; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Kai,

With the old exporter, you could make your own
special-string and convert it.

In init.el:

--------------------------------------------------
;; For old exporter: C-c C-e h
(eval-after-load "org"
  '(setq org-export-html-special-string-regexps
	 (append org-export-html-special-string-regexps
		 '(("-nd-" . "--")))))
--------------------------------------------------


I've not been able to get special-strings working with
the new exporter, but it should be something like:

--------------------------------------------------
;; For new exporter (but not yet)
(eval-after-load "org"
  '(setq org-e-html-special-string-regexps
	 (append org-e-html-special-string-regexps
		 '(("-nd-" . "--")))))
--------------------------------------------------

HTH

-BC

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-17  3:15 William Crandall
@ 2012-06-17 23:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2012-06-18 23:39   ` William Crandall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-06-17 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Crandall; +Cc: kbkbkbkb1, emacs-orgmode

Hello,

William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:

> I've not been able to get special-strings working with
> the new exporter,

Could you elaborate? I have no problem with special strings in any
back-end so far.

> but it should be something like:
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> ;; For new exporter (but not yet)
> (eval-after-load "org"
>   '(setq org-e-html-special-string-regexps
> 	 (append org-e-html-special-string-regexps
> 		 '(("-nd-" . "--")))))
> --------------------------------------------------

I have no problem with

  (add-to-list 'org-e-html-special-string-regexps '("-nd-" . "--"))


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-17 23:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2012-06-18 23:39   ` William Crandall
  2012-06-19  0:04     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-18 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello Nicolas,

For me, org-e-html-special-string-regexps
does not (yet) play well.


On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM,
Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
> William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I've not been able to get special-strings working with
>> the new exporter,
>
> I have no problem with
>
>  (add-to-list 'org-e-html-special-string-regexps '("-nd-" . "--"))
>
> Could you elaborate? I have no problem with special strings
> in any back-end so far.
--------------------------------------------------

Certainly.

If I add that one line to the end of init.el:

--------------------------------------------------
Debugger entered--Lisp error:
   (void-variable org-e-html-special-string-regexps)
      add-to-list(org-e-html-special-string-regexps ("-nd-" . "--"))
      [etc.]
--------------------------------------------------

And the attempted compile kicks off a renaming error,
that I do not understand. That is, if I delete the new
line, and try to compile:

--------------------------------------------------
byte-compile-file: Renaming: permission denied,
		   g:/dev/bin/emacs/.emacs.d/init.elc16464y,
		   g:/dev/bin/emacs/.emacs.d/init.elc
--------------------------------------------------

If I kill emacs, delete all init.elc* files, and restart,
byte-compile proceeds without complaint.

I've tried to wrap the line in two ways, but neither work:

--------------------------------------------------
(eval-after-load 'org
  (add-to-list
   'org-e-html-special-string-regexps '("-nd-" . "--")))
--------------------------------------------------

Same "void-variable" error, and "Renaming: permission denied"
error, with multiple init.elc3996DWC, etc.

And same if I wrap it like this (void and renaming errors),
which is the syntax that works for the old exporter:

--------------------------------------------------
(eval-after-load "org"
  '(setq org-e-html-special-string-regexps
	 (append org-e-html-special-string-regexps
		 '(("-nd-" . "--")))))
--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------

If I remove all code snippet from init.el, kill emacs,
delete all init.elcXXX files, and restart, emacs is fine.

But, if I repeatedly test different permutations, emacs
hangs trying to open a plain text file, showing no text
and a broken scroll bar, and corrupts the desktop file.

That is to say, it doesn't (yet) work for me ;).

Hope this helps!

-BC

Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-80-gfca016)
GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
 of 2012-06-18 on MARVIN
Windows 7

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-18 23:39   ` William Crandall
@ 2012-06-19  0:04     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2012-06-19  0:39       ` William Crandall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-06-19  0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:

> If I add that one line to the end of init.el:
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Debugger entered--Lisp error:
>    (void-variable org-e-html-special-string-regexps)
>       add-to-list(org-e-html-special-string-regexps ("-nd-" . "--"))
>       [etc.]
> --------------------------------------------------

You need to require `org-e-html' first.

> I've tried to wrap the line in two ways, but neither work:
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> (eval-after-load 'org
>   (add-to-list
>    'org-e-html-special-string-regexps '("-nd-" . "--")))
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Same "void-variable" error, and "Renaming: permission denied"
> error, with multiple init.elc3996DWC, etc.

this is (eval-after-load 'org-e-html ...).  Be sure contrib directory is
in your load-path, though.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-19  0:04     ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2012-06-19  0:39       ` William Crandall
  2012-06-19  0:42         ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-19  0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello Nicolas,

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:

> You need to require `org-e-html' first.

Well, that was easy. It works fine now. Thanks.

>> Same "void-variable" error, and "Renaming: permission denied"
>> error, with multiple init.elc3996DWC, etc.
>
> this is (eval-after-load 'org-e-html ...).

Could you elaborate, or point me to some docs?

Thanks again,

-BC

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-19  0:39       ` William Crandall
@ 2012-06-19  0:42         ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2012-06-19  1:35           ` William Crandall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-06-19  0:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You need to require `org-e-html' first.
>
> Well, that was easy. It works fine now. Thanks.
>
>>> Same "void-variable" error, and "Renaming: permission denied"
>>> error, with multiple init.elc3996DWC, etc.
>>
>> this is (eval-after-load 'org-e-html ...).
>
> Could you elaborate, or point me to some docs?

That's on the same basis as above.  Evaluating your code once org.el has
been loaded is too early.  You need to ensure `org-e-html' feature has
been provided first.

Thus, (eval-after-load "org-e-html" ...) is more appropriate than
(eval-after-load "org" ...).


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Inhibit converting "--" to "&ndash;"
  2012-06-19  0:42         ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2012-06-19  1:35           ` William Crandall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-19  1:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
> William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
>>> this is (eval-after-load 'org-e-html ...).
>>
>> Could you elaborate, or point me to some docs?
>
> That's on the same basis as above.  Evaluating your code once org.el has
> been loaded is too early.  You need to ensure `org-e-html' feature has
> been provided first.
>
> Thus, (eval-after-load "org-e-html" ...) is more appropriate than
> (eval-after-load "org" ...).

Ah, got it. All is clear now.

Thanks,

-BC

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