New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Stefan Vollmar]

Hallo, 

we proudly present:

"Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"

a talk by Carsten Dominik presented on February 8th 2010
at our institute. The recording of the talk is available here:

http://www.nf.mpg.de/orgmode/guest-talk-dominik.html

Warm regards,
  Stefan
-- 
Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
Head of IT group
Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de   http://www.nf.mpg.de

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Russell Adams]

Rock on!

I'm downloading it right now!

On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:07:45PM +0100, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
> Hallo, 
> 
> we proudly present:
> 
> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
> 
> a talk by Carsten Dominik presented on February 8th 2010
> at our institute. The recording of the talk is available here:
> 
> http://www.nf.mpg.de/orgmode/guest-talk-dominik.html
> 
> Warm regards,
>   Stefan
> -- 
> Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
> Head of IT group
> Max-Planck-Institut f?r neurologische Forschung
> Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 K?ln, Germany
> Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
> Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
> Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de   http://www.nf.mpg.de
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Thomas S. Dye]

On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> we proudly present:
>
> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>
> a talk by Carsten Dominik presented on February 8th 2010
> at our institute. The recording of the talk is available here:
>
> http://www.nf.mpg.de/orgmode/guest-talk-dominik.html
>
> Warm regards,
>  Stefan
> --  
> Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
> Head of IT group
> Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
> Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
> Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
> Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
> Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de   http://www.nf.mpg.de
>

Aloha Stefan,

Thanks for the recording.  You've done a wonderful job integrating the  
lecture with the slides and the questions following.  As a viewer, I  
felt I hadn't missed a thing.

I'm not sure what to make of Carsten's statement about himself at the  
beginning: "I'm not a programmer."  I wish I were half the programmer  
Carsten isn't!

All the best,
Tom

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> we proudly present:
>
> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>
> a talk by Carsten Dominik presented on February 8th 2010
> at our institute. The recording of the talk is available here:
>
> http://www.nf.mpg.de/orgmode/guest-talk-dominik.html


This is great, thanks a lot, Stefan, for all the work you have put  
into making this available.

Next stop: I want to be on FLOSS weekly (But Randal Schwartz did not  
even react
on my email - so I guess not :-)

- Carsten

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Daniel Martins]

It would be great to have this talk on Google Video or YouTube or
another video streaming webpage.

I would "spread the word" more easily with such links....

Daniel

2010/3/6 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>:
>
> On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
>
>> Hallo,
>>
>> we proudly present:
>>
>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>
>> a talk by Carsten Dominik presented on February 8th 2010
>> at our institute. The recording of the talk is available here:
>>
>> http://www.nf.mpg.de/orgmode/guest-talk-dominik.html
>
>
> This is great, thanks a lot, Stefan, for all the work you have put into
> making this available.
>
> Next stop: I want to be on FLOSS weekly (But Randal Schwartz did not even
> react
> on my email - so I guess not :-)
>
> - Carsten
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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>

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Tom]

Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:

> 
> Hallo, 
> 
> we proudly present:
> 
> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
> 

I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
elaborate visual design.

I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
default.

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Benjamin Andresen]

Hey,

Tom <levelhalom@gmail.com> writes:

> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>
>> 
>> Hallo, 
>> 
>> we proudly present:
>> 
>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>> 
>
> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
> config.

I agree with this. The appearance of TODO keywords being buttons is very
nice.

About the talk: Too bad that the audio quality of the wireless(?)
microphone is so bad. The talk itself was very good.

And another positive thing worth mentioning: Whoever did this
translucent overlay business from your monitor over your face. That was
a great way to handle these kinds of presentation.

br, benny

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tom wrote:

> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>
>>
>> Hallo,
>>
>> we proudly present:
>>
>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>
>
> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
> config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
> coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
> the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
> off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
> elaborate visual design.
>
> I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
> impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
> of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
> default.

The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
it will have white background and only default colors.

I could of course make the screenshot on orgmode.org with my
color scheme[1], but then new users would not like the first
impression they get when they download emacs and install Org.

I am interested in a discussion about how to handle this issue.

- Carsten

[1] The color scheme is based on the scheme by Peter Jones, who
     in particular came up with the idea to make the TODO keywords look
     like buttons.  I use that idea, but with different colors.  The
     exact colors were not my creation, because I am really not talended
     in this area.  But I agree they look great - they were selected
     by the same designer who created the special logo used on all
     our spreadshirt shop items...

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Tom]

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
> it will have white background and only default colors.
> 


For every face you can define colors for light and dark background:

background: The kind of background—either light or dark.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp/html_node/Defining-Faces.html#Defining-
Faces

So there should be two color schemes: one for light and one for dark
background and emacs would use the first one for the default light 
background.

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Manuel Amador]

Carsten,

Can we get a copy of the color configuration you are using?

-- Manuel

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Carsten Dominik
<carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tom wrote:
>
>> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> we proudly present:
>>>
>>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>>
>>
>> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
>> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
>> config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
>> coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
>> the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
>> off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
>> elaborate visual design.
>>
>> I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
>> impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
>> of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
>> default.
>
> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
> it will have white background and only default colors.
>
> I could of course make the screenshot on orgmode.org with my
> color scheme[1], but then new users would not like the first
> impression they get when they download emacs and install Org.
>
> I am interested in a discussion about how to handle this issue.
>
> - Carsten
>
> [1] The color scheme is based on the scheme by Peter Jones, who
>    in particular came up with the idea to make the TODO keywords look
>    like buttons.  I use that idea, but with different colors.  The
>    exact colors were not my creation, because I am really not talended
>    in this area.  But I agree they look great - they were selected
>    by the same designer who created the special logo used on all
>    our spreadshirt shop items...
>
>
>
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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>



-- 
Manuel

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Łukasz Stelmach]

Stefan Vollmar <vollmar@nf.mpg.de> writes:

> we proudly present:
>
> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"

Ogg version has a very lousy sound :-( As if it was pushed through
a ~500Hz bandpass filter. But nevertheless thank you very much.

Carsten, can I (we?) use this presentation as a base to promote org-mode
at my faculty? How did you do that keystroke showing thing?


-- 
Miłego dnia,
Łukasz Stelmach

Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Nathan Neff]

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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Nathan Neff <nathan.neff@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
>>
>>  Hallo,
>>>
>>> we proudly present:
>>>
>>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>>
>>> a talk by Carsten Dominik presented on February 8th 2010
>>> at our institute. The recording of the talk is available here:
>>>
>>> http://www.nf.mpg.de/orgmode/guest-talk-dominik.html
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is great, thanks a lot, Stefan, for all the work you have put into
>> making this available.
>>
>> Next stop: I want to be on FLOSS weekly (But Randal Schwartz did not even
>> react
>> on my email - so I guess not :-)
>>
>>
> I would also like to hear Carsten on FLOSS weekly.  I remember an episode
> from several months ago, where Leo and Randall were talking about how to
> get onto
> FLOSS weekly, and that they value listener suggestions.
>
> So, if you want to hear org-mode on FLOSS, you can e-mail Randall directly
> from the main web page:  http://twit.tv/FLOSS and suggest they have
> Carsten as a guest.
>
> --Nate
>
>
>
>
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Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Łukasz Stelmach wrote:
>
> Carsten, can I (we?) use this presentation as a base to promote org- 
> mode
> at my faculty?

Yes.  Just like with the Google Tech Talk, the slides are available
under a creative commons attribution license.  I have uploaded them
in various formats here:

                      http://orgmode.org/talks/

> How did you do that keystroke showing thing?

The little videos are screen captures made with iShowU HD on my
macbook. That program has a feature to capture key strokes and show
them.  I only with I could make it to show all the control and meta
combinations in a format that matches Emacs conventions.

- Carsten

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Ian Barton]

> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar@nf.mpg.de> writes:
> 
>> we proudly present:
>>
>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
> 
> Ogg version has a very lousy sound :-( As if it was pushed through
> a ~500Hz bandpass filter. But nevertheless thank you very much.
> 
It's probably possible to improve the soundtrack. If I can work out how 
to demux Quicktime files I'll have a go. Meanwhile if you play the 
Quicktime version using VLC and choose Tools/Effects/Filters/Audio the 
sound is greatly improved if you choose Reggae (really try it yourself).

Ian.

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Manuel Amador wrote:

> Carsten,
>
> Can we get a copy of the color configuration you are using?
>
-- Manuel

Yes, I have put my color config here:

http://orgmode.org/cd-colors.el

This started as a copy of Peter Jones config and was then edited and  
hacked - which is why it may not be in the most convenient shape.   
Feel free to package it up nicely and send me a better version.

You also need something like this, adapted to your todo keywords.

(setq org-todo-keyword-faces
       '(("SDMB" . cd-org-someday-kwd-face)
	("STARTED" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
	("STRT" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
	("WAITING" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
	("WAIT" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
	("DELG" . cd-org-delegated-kwd-face)
	("PROJ" . cd-org-project-kwd-face)
	("DONE" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
	("PRDN" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
	("PRCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
	("CNCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
	("PRCN" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
	("TODO" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
	("SELECTED" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
	("INVITED" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
	("SCHEDULED" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
	("DECLINED" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)))


Cheers!

- Carsten

>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Carsten Dominik
> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tom wrote:
>>
>>> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hallo,
>>>>
>>>> we proudly present:
>>>>
>>>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>>>
>>>
>>> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
>>> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
>>> config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
>>> coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
>>> the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
>>> off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
>>> elaborate visual design.
>>>
>>> I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
>>> impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
>>> of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
>>> default.
>>
>> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
>> it will have white background and only default colors.
>>
>> I could of course make the screenshot on orgmode.org with my
>> color scheme[1], but then new users would not like the first
>> impression they get when they download emacs and install Org.
>>
>> I am interested in a discussion about how to handle this issue.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> [1] The color scheme is based on the scheme by Peter Jones, who
>>    in particular came up with the idea to make the TODO keywords look
>>    like buttons.  I use that idea, but with different colors.  The
>>    exact colors were not my creation, because I am really not  
>> talended
>>    in this area.  But I agree they look great - they were selected
>>    by the same designer who created the special logo used on all
>>    our spreadshirt shop items...
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Manuel

- Carsten

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Tom wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
>> it will have white background and only default colors.
>>
>
>
> For every face you can define colors for light and dark background:
>
> background: The kind of background—either light or dark.
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp/html_node/Defining-Faces.html#Defining-
> Faces
>
> So there should be two color schemes: one for light and one for dark
> background and emacs would use the first one for the default light
> background.

Hi Tom,

yes, I know that every face has two definitions - in fact it has often  
more, for different numbers of available colors.

Still, I am hesitating to install this as (dark) default.  I think it  
would be great if this could be included as an option, but I do not  
want to add this as standard - in particular because I think many of  
the colors only make sense when they are also applied in other buffers  
like source code buffers, using similar font-lock faces.

I did publish my color stuff earlier today in this thread.  If someone  
wants to take it, clean it up and turn it into a color theme - I think  
this would be he best option.

- Carsten

>
>
>
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- Carsten

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Daniel Martins]

I found a "minor" bug in cd-colors.el


I use a variation of background/foreground according to day/night
environments as suggested in

http://www.jurta.org/en/emacs/dotemacs

and which I reproduce below

But using cd-colors and the day option which means

  (set-background-color "white")
  (set-foreground-color "black")

I notice that the face org-hide remains black.

As I use



(setq org-hide-leading-stars t)


this is not quite convenient.

So I commented the line of org-hide in cd-colors and everything worked fine!

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
       `(org-tag ((t (:foreground ,tag))))
;;       `(org-hide ((t (:foreground "#191919"))))
       `(org-todo ((t (:background ,todo-bg :foreground "white" ,@box))))
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Daniel

PS here is the text of my .emacs that I commented above

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;



;;; colors

(defun my-colors-light (&optional frame)
  "Set colors suitable for working in light environments,
i.e. in daylight or under bright electric lamps."
  (interactive)
  (setq frame-background-mode 'light)
  (if frame
      (select-frame frame)
    (setq frame (selected-frame)))
  ;; The color with minimal eye fatigue in light environments
  ;; is "AntiqueWhite3" (RGB: 205 192 176),
  ;; (set-background-color "AntiqueWhite3")
  (set-background-color "white")
  (set-foreground-color "black")
  (when (facep 'region)
    (set-face-background 'region "DarkGrey" frame))
  (when (facep 'fringe)
    (set-face-background 'fringe (face-background 'default) frame)
    (set-face-foreground 'fringe (face-foreground 'default) frame))
  ;; When started Emacs under root, warn by red color in the modeline
  (when (and (facep 'mode-line)
             (file-exists-p "/root")
             (file-writable-p "/root"))
    (set-face-background 'mode-line "firebrick")))

(define-key global-map [f6 ?c ?d] 'my-colors-light) ;; c color d day

(defun my-colors-dark (&optional frame)
  "Set colors suitable for working in the darkness without electricity."
  (interactive)
  (setq frame-background-mode 'dark)
  (if frame
      (select-frame frame)
    (setq frame (selected-frame)))
  (set-background-color "black")
  (set-foreground-color "DarkGrey")
  (when (facep 'region)
    (set-face-background 'region "DimGray" frame))
  (when (facep 'fringe)
    (set-face-background 'fringe (face-background 'default) frame)
    (set-face-foreground 'fringe (face-foreground 'default) frame)))

(define-key global-map [f6 ?c ?n] 'my-colors-dark) ;; c color n night

;; Automatically switch to dark background after sunset
;; and to light background after sunrise.
;; (Note that `calendar-latitude' and `calendar-longitude'
;;  should be set before calling the `solar-sunrise-sunset')
(defun my-colors-set (&optional frame)
  (interactive)
  (require 'solar)
  (if (and calendar-latitude calendar-longitude calendar-time-zone)
      (let* ((l (solar-sunrise-sunset (calendar-current-date)))
             (sunrise-string (apply 'solar-time-string (car l)))
             (sunset-string (apply 'solar-time-string (car (cdr l))))
             (current-time-string (format-time-string "%H:%M")))
        (if (or (string-lessp current-time-string sunrise-string)
                (string-lessp sunset-string current-time-string))
            (my-colors-dark frame)
          (my-colors-light frame))
        (if (and (boundp 'my-sunset-timer)  (timerp my-sunset-timer))
            (cancel-timer my-sunset-timer))
        (if (and (boundp 'my-sunrise-timer) (timerp my-sunrise-timer))
            (cancel-timer my-sunrise-timer))
        (setq my-sunset-timer  (run-at-time sunset-string  (* 60 60 24)
                                            'my-colors-dark))
        (setq my-sunrise-timer (run-at-time sunrise-string (* 60 60 24)
                                            'my-colors-light)))))


(my-colors-set)
(add-to-list 'after-make-frame-functions 'my-colors-set)






2010/3/9 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>:
>
> On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Manuel Amador wrote:
>
>> Carsten,
>>
>> Can we get a copy of the color configuration you are using?
>>
> -- Manuel
>
> Yes, I have put my color config here:
>
> http://orgmode.org/cd-colors.el
>
> This started as a copy of Peter Jones config and was then edited and hacked
> - which is why it may not be in the most convenient shape.  Feel free to
> package it up nicely and send me a better version.
>
> You also need something like this, adapted to your todo keywords.
>
> (setq org-todo-keyword-faces
>      '(("SDMB" . cd-org-someday-kwd-face)
>        ("STARTED" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
>        ("STRT" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
>        ("WAITING" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>        ("WAIT" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>        ("DELG" . cd-org-delegated-kwd-face)
>        ("PROJ" . cd-org-project-kwd-face)
>        ("DONE" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>        ("PRDN" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>        ("PRCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>        ("CNCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>        ("PRCN" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>        ("TODO" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
>        ("SELECTED" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
>        ("INVITED" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>        ("SCHEDULED" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>        ("DECLINED" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)))
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Carsten Dominik
>> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hallo,
>>>>>
>>>>> we proudly present:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
>>>> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
>>>> config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
>>>> coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
>>>> the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
>>>> off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
>>>> elaborate visual design.
>>>>
>>>> I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
>>>> impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
>>>> of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
>>>> default.
>>>
>>> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
>>> it will have white background and only default colors.
>>>
>>> I could of course make the screenshot on orgmode.org with my
>>> color scheme[1], but then new users would not like the first
>>> impression they get when they download emacs and install Org.
>>>
>>> I am interested in a discussion about how to handle this issue.
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>> [1] The color scheme is based on the scheme by Peter Jones, who
>>>   in particular came up with the idea to make the TODO keywords look
>>>   like buttons.  I use that idea, but with different colors.  The
>>>   exact colors were not my creation, because I am really not talended
>>>   in this area.  But I agree they look great - they were selected
>>>   by the same designer who created the special logo used on all
>>>   our spreadshirt shop items...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Manuel
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Daniel Martins wrote:

> I found a "minor" bug in cd-colors.el
>
>
> I use a variation of background/foreground according to day/night
> environments as suggested in
>
> http://www.jurta.org/en/emacs/dotemacs
>
> and which I reproduce below
>
> But using cd-colors and the day option which means
>
>  (set-background-color "white")
>  (set-foreground-color "black")
>
> I notice that the face org-hide remains black.

I think that many of these faces will not work properly with a white  
background - they are all only for a dark background.  I would have  
thought that the entire scheme is unusable with white.

- Carsten

>
> As I use
>
>
>
> (setq org-hide-leading-stars t)
>
>
> this is not quite convenient.
>
> So I commented the line of org-hide in cd-colors and everything  
> worked fine!
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>       `(org-tag ((t (:foreground ,tag))))
> ;;       `(org-hide ((t (:foreground "#191919"))))
>       `(org-todo ((t (:background ,todo-bg :foreground  
> "white" ,@box))))
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
> Daniel
>
> PS here is the text of my .emacs that I commented above
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
>
>
> ;;; colors
>
> (defun my-colors-light (&optional frame)
>  "Set colors suitable for working in light environments,
> i.e. in daylight or under bright electric lamps."
>  (interactive)
>  (setq frame-background-mode 'light)
>  (if frame
>      (select-frame frame)
>    (setq frame (selected-frame)))
>  ;; The color with minimal eye fatigue in light environments
>  ;; is "AntiqueWhite3" (RGB: 205 192 176),
>  ;; (set-background-color "AntiqueWhite3")
>  (set-background-color "white")
>  (set-foreground-color "black")
>  (when (facep 'region)
>    (set-face-background 'region "DarkGrey" frame))
>  (when (facep 'fringe)
>    (set-face-background 'fringe (face-background 'default) frame)
>    (set-face-foreground 'fringe (face-foreground 'default) frame))
>  ;; When started Emacs under root, warn by red color in the modeline
>  (when (and (facep 'mode-line)
>             (file-exists-p "/root")
>             (file-writable-p "/root"))
>    (set-face-background 'mode-line "firebrick")))
>
> (define-key global-map [f6 ?c ?d] 'my-colors-light) ;; c color d day
>
> (defun my-colors-dark (&optional frame)
>  "Set colors suitable for working in the darkness without  
> electricity."
>  (interactive)
>  (setq frame-background-mode 'dark)
>  (if frame
>      (select-frame frame)
>    (setq frame (selected-frame)))
>  (set-background-color "black")
>  (set-foreground-color "DarkGrey")
>  (when (facep 'region)
>    (set-face-background 'region "DimGray" frame))
>  (when (facep 'fringe)
>    (set-face-background 'fringe (face-background 'default) frame)
>    (set-face-foreground 'fringe (face-foreground 'default) frame)))
>
> (define-key global-map [f6 ?c ?n] 'my-colors-dark) ;; c color n night
>
> ;; Automatically switch to dark background after sunset
> ;; and to light background after sunrise.
> ;; (Note that `calendar-latitude' and `calendar-longitude'
> ;;  should be set before calling the `solar-sunrise-sunset')
> (defun my-colors-set (&optional frame)
>  (interactive)
>  (require 'solar)
>  (if (and calendar-latitude calendar-longitude calendar-time-zone)
>      (let* ((l (solar-sunrise-sunset (calendar-current-date)))
>             (sunrise-string (apply 'solar-time-string (car l)))
>             (sunset-string (apply 'solar-time-string (car (cdr l))))
>             (current-time-string (format-time-string "%H:%M")))
>        (if (or (string-lessp current-time-string sunrise-string)
>                (string-lessp sunset-string current-time-string))
>            (my-colors-dark frame)
>          (my-colors-light frame))
>        (if (and (boundp 'my-sunset-timer)  (timerp my-sunset-timer))
>            (cancel-timer my-sunset-timer))
>        (if (and (boundp 'my-sunrise-timer) (timerp my-sunrise-timer))
>            (cancel-timer my-sunrise-timer))
>        (setq my-sunset-timer  (run-at-time sunset-string  (* 60 60 24)
>                                            'my-colors-dark))
>        (setq my-sunrise-timer (run-at-time sunrise-string (* 60 60 24)
>                                            'my-colors-light)))))
>
>
> (my-colors-set)
> (add-to-list 'after-make-frame-functions 'my-colors-set)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/3/9 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>:
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Manuel Amador wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten,
>>>
>>> Can we get a copy of the color configuration you are using?
>>>
>> -- Manuel
>>
>> Yes, I have put my color config here:
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/cd-colors.el
>>
>> This started as a copy of Peter Jones config and was then edited  
>> and hacked
>> - which is why it may not be in the most convenient shape.  Feel  
>> free to
>> package it up nicely and send me a better version.
>>
>> You also need something like this, adapted to your todo keywords.
>>
>> (setq org-todo-keyword-faces
>>      '(("SDMB" . cd-org-someday-kwd-face)
>>        ("STARTED" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
>>        ("STRT" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
>>        ("WAITING" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>>        ("WAIT" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>>        ("DELG" . cd-org-delegated-kwd-face)
>>        ("PROJ" . cd-org-project-kwd-face)
>>        ("DONE" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>>        ("PRDN" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>>        ("PRCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>>        ("CNCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>>        ("PRCN" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>>        ("TODO" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
>>        ("SELECTED" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
>>        ("INVITED" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>>        ("SCHEDULED" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>>        ("DECLINED" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)))
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Carsten Dominik
>>> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hallo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we proudly present:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
>>>>> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
>>>>> config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
>>>>> coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
>>>>> the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
>>>>> off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
>>>>> elaborate visual design.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
>>>>> impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
>>>>> of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
>>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
>>>> it will have white background and only default colors.
>>>>
>>>> I could of course make the screenshot on orgmode.org with my
>>>> color scheme[1], but then new users would not like the first
>>>> impression they get when they download emacs and install Org.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in a discussion about how to handle this issue.
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>> [1] The color scheme is based on the scheme by Peter Jones, who
>>>>   in particular came up with the idea to make the TODO keywords  
>>>> look
>>>>   like buttons.  I use that idea, but with different colors.  The
>>>>   exact colors were not my creation, because I am really not  
>>>> talended
>>>>   in this area.  But I agree they look great - they were selected
>>>>   by the same designer who created the special logo used on all
>>>>   our spreadshirt shop items...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manuel
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>

- Carsten

Re: Re: New Org-mode talk by Carsten Dominik

[Daniel Martins]

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Well,

It works for white backgrounds but this color scheme is far from optimum.

As I use both white background and black background for the night (I have
read some academic papers that said  white background is better for the eye
fatigue but I am not quite sure of it)  I need a white background setup


Anyone out there has a proposal of color schemes for white (or at least not
dark) backgrounds which could share with us?

Daniel



2010/3/18 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>

>
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Daniel Martins wrote:
>
>  I found a "minor" bug in cd-colors.el
>>
>>
>> I use a variation of background/foreground according to day/night
>> environments as suggested in
>>
>> http://www.jurta.org/en/emacs/dotemacs
>>
>> and which I reproduce below
>>
>> But using cd-colors and the day option which means
>>
>>  (set-background-color "white")
>>  (set-foreground-color "black")
>>
>> I notice that the face org-hide remains black.
>>
>
> I think that many of these faces will not work properly with a white
> background - they are all only for a dark background.  I would have thought
> that the entire scheme is unusable with white.
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
>> As I use
>>
>>
>>
>> (setq org-hide-leading-stars t)
>>
>>
>> this is not quite convenient.
>>
>> So I commented the line of org-hide in cd-colors and everything worked
>> fine!
>>
>> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>      `(org-tag ((t (:foreground ,tag))))
>> ;;       `(org-hide ((t (:foreground "#191919"))))
>>      `(org-todo ((t (:background ,todo-bg :foreground "white" ,@box))))
>> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> PS here is the text of my .emacs that I commented above
>>
>> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>
>>
>>
>> ;;; colors
>>
>> (defun my-colors-light (&optional frame)
>>  "Set colors suitable for working in light environments,
>> i.e. in daylight or under bright electric lamps."
>>  (interactive)
>>  (setq frame-background-mode 'light)
>>  (if frame
>>     (select-frame frame)
>>   (setq frame (selected-frame)))
>>  ;; The color with minimal eye fatigue in light environments
>>  ;; is "AntiqueWhite3" (RGB: 205 192 176),
>>  ;; (set-background-color "AntiqueWhite3")
>>  (set-background-color "white")
>>  (set-foreground-color "black")
>>  (when (facep 'region)
>>   (set-face-background 'region "DarkGrey" frame))
>>  (when (facep 'fringe)
>>   (set-face-background 'fringe (face-background 'default) frame)
>>   (set-face-foreground 'fringe (face-foreground 'default) frame))
>>  ;; When started Emacs under root, warn by red color in the modeline
>>  (when (and (facep 'mode-line)
>>            (file-exists-p "/root")
>>            (file-writable-p "/root"))
>>   (set-face-background 'mode-line "firebrick")))
>>
>> (define-key global-map [f6 ?c ?d] 'my-colors-light) ;; c color d day
>>
>> (defun my-colors-dark (&optional frame)
>>  "Set colors suitable for working in the darkness without electricity."
>>  (interactive)
>>  (setq frame-background-mode 'dark)
>>  (if frame
>>     (select-frame frame)
>>   (setq frame (selected-frame)))
>>  (set-background-color "black")
>>  (set-foreground-color "DarkGrey")
>>  (when (facep 'region)
>>   (set-face-background 'region "DimGray" frame))
>>  (when (facep 'fringe)
>>   (set-face-background 'fringe (face-background 'default) frame)
>>   (set-face-foreground 'fringe (face-foreground 'default) frame)))
>>
>> (define-key global-map [f6 ?c ?n] 'my-colors-dark) ;; c color n night
>>
>> ;; Automatically switch to dark background after sunset
>> ;; and to light background after sunrise.
>> ;; (Note that `calendar-latitude' and `calendar-longitude'
>> ;;  should be set before calling the `solar-sunrise-sunset')
>> (defun my-colors-set (&optional frame)
>>  (interactive)
>>  (require 'solar)
>>  (if (and calendar-latitude calendar-longitude calendar-time-zone)
>>     (let* ((l (solar-sunrise-sunset (calendar-current-date)))
>>            (sunrise-string (apply 'solar-time-string (car l)))
>>            (sunset-string (apply 'solar-time-string (car (cdr l))))
>>            (current-time-string (format-time-string "%H:%M")))
>>       (if (or (string-lessp current-time-string sunrise-string)
>>               (string-lessp sunset-string current-time-string))
>>           (my-colors-dark frame)
>>         (my-colors-light frame))
>>       (if (and (boundp 'my-sunset-timer)  (timerp my-sunset-timer))
>>           (cancel-timer my-sunset-timer))
>>       (if (and (boundp 'my-sunrise-timer) (timerp my-sunrise-timer))
>>           (cancel-timer my-sunrise-timer))
>>       (setq my-sunset-timer  (run-at-time sunset-string  (* 60 60 24)
>>                                           'my-colors-dark))
>>       (setq my-sunrise-timer (run-at-time sunrise-string (* 60 60 24)
>>                                           'my-colors-light)))))
>>
>>
>> (my-colors-set)
>> (add-to-list 'after-make-frame-functions 'my-colors-set)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/3/9 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Manuel Amador wrote:
>>>
>>>  Carsten,
>>>>
>>>> Can we get a copy of the color configuration you are using?
>>>>
>>>>  -- Manuel
>>>
>>> Yes, I have put my color config here:
>>>
>>> http://orgmode.org/cd-colors.el
>>>
>>> This started as a copy of Peter Jones config and was then edited and
>>> hacked
>>> - which is why it may not be in the most convenient shape.  Feel free to
>>> package it up nicely and send me a better version.
>>>
>>> You also need something like this, adapted to your todo keywords.
>>>
>>> (setq org-todo-keyword-faces
>>>     '(("SDMB" . cd-org-someday-kwd-face)
>>>       ("STARTED" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
>>>       ("STRT" . cd-org-started-kwd-face)
>>>       ("WAITING" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>>>       ("WAIT" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>>>       ("DELG" . cd-org-delegated-kwd-face)
>>>       ("PROJ" . cd-org-project-kwd-face)
>>>       ("DONE" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>>>       ("PRDN" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>>>       ("PRCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>>>       ("CNCL" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>>>       ("PRCN" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)
>>>       ("TODO" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
>>>       ("SELECTED" . cd-org-todo-kwd-face)
>>>       ("INVITED" . cd-org-waiting-kwd-face)
>>>       ("SCHEDULED" . cd-org-done-kwd-face)
>>>       ("DECLINED" . cd-org-cancelled-kwd-face)))
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Carsten Dominik
>>>> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Tom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Stefan Vollmar <vollmar <at> nf.mpg.de> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hallo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we proudly present:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Emacs Org-mode: Organizing a Scientist's Life and Work"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed the org color config in the talk was much
>>>>>> catchier (e.g. the keywords with bgcolor) than in the default org
>>>>>> config. It would be a good idea to make org more appealing by
>>>>>> coming up with a sexier color scheme. The appearance of org on
>>>>>> the main page of orgmode.org is very spartan and can be a turn
>>>>>> off for newbies who are used to applications with a more
>>>>>> elaborate visual design.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think a better choice of default colors could improve the first
>>>>>> impression a bit. Maybe people could send to the list screenshots
>>>>>> of their config and one of the better ones could be used as a new
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I see here is that if a new user downloads Emacs,
>>>>> it will have white background and only default colors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could of course make the screenshot on orgmode.org with my
>>>>> color scheme[1], but then new users would not like the first
>>>>> impression they get when they download emacs and install Org.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in a discussion about how to handle this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] The color scheme is based on the scheme by Peter Jones, who
>>>>>  in particular came up with the idea to make the TODO keywords look
>>>>>  like buttons.  I use that idea, but with different colors.  The
>>>>>  exact colors were not my creation, because I am really not talended
>>>>>  in this area.  But I agree they look great - they were selected
>>>>>  by the same designer who created the special logo used on all
>>>>>  our spreadshirt shop items...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Manuel
>>>>
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>
>>>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
>

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