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From: Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com>, Matt <matt@excalamus.com>
Subject: Re: Pending contents in org documents (Re: Asynchronous blocks for everything (was Re: ...))
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 10:33:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65f95bf2.050a0220.6d051.c8b1@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87frwuxy1b.fsf@localhost>


Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com> writes:
>> Would "lisp/org-pending.el" be OK ?  Or do you see a better place/name ?
>
> org-pending sounds fine. Maybe org-pending-text to be more explicit.

I've picked: "org-pending"; it's shorter and can by used as a prefix.
Thanks.


> Similar to process API, your library provides means to interact with
> process associated with the pending text - create them (40.4 Creating an
> Asynchronous Process), handle feedback (40.9.2 Process Filter
> Functions), handle on-done/fail/etc (40.10 Sentinels: Detecting Process
> Status Changes), kill/cancel execution (40.5 Deleting Processes, 40.8
> Sending Signals to Processes), insert-log (strerr in Emacs processes)
> list pending (40.6 Process Information), org-pending-on-kill-buffer
> (40.11 Querying Before Exit), get information (`process-attributes',
> 40.12 Accessing Other Processes)
>
> I simply went across 40 Processes section of Elisp manual and I see
> parallels for pretty much every subsection; but the terminology _and
> API_ are different.
>

I rewrote the API, rename many things, moved the code around and
sorted everything into heading/subheading sections.  This is hopefully
less confusing and a lot simpler; and the documentation hopefully
explains better how to use it.

The updated section "Commentary", in org-pending, describes the 3 steps
that are needed to mark and use a pending region: a PENREG (I've renamed
"PINFO" to "PENREG", for PENding REGion, more specific).

I tried to stick with the process terminology when relevant (mostly
kill-query and sentinel).

It doesn't really match the process API, but, now, it should be easier to
understand why.


>> I'm OK to rewrite it using a cl-defstruct (to be honnest, I just
>> flipped a coin to decide between a struct or an alist :) ).
>
> I think that I need to elaborate.
> It is not necessarily a matter of alist vs. struct, but more about the
> API. I do not like the idea of mutating the alist entries directly. I'd
> rather expose an API to work with "pending" as an opaque object - send
> signals to it, get status, etc.
>
> struct is slightly better here because it automatically defines setters
> and getters for all the slots without a need to write extra boilerplate
> code.

Done. Thanks!

I added a function `org-pending-user-edit': it allows to edit a region
using org-pending and `string-edit' (see org-pending.el).

I also added an other execution engine (DEMO_ONLY), that allows to
execute any elisp asynchronously, using callbacks (see
`my-use-callbacks-schedule', in my-async-tests.el), and in
my-async-tests.org, near the multithreading examples.

To test, follow the org file [my-async-tests.org] (see direct link below).

WDYT of this version ?

Thanks!

Bruno

[I've forced push the new version, squashing everything into simple
commits, if you need the old version, just ask and I'll push a copy
there.]


[my-async-tests.org]:
     https://framagit.org/brubar/org-mode-mirror/-/blob/bba-pending-contents/scratch/bba-pending-contents/my-async-tests.org?ref_type=heads

[repo & branch]:
     https://framagit.org/brubar/org-mode-mirror/-/tree/bba-pending-contents?ref_type=heads
     bba-pending-contents




  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-19  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-01 11:58 [BUG] Unexpected result when evaluating python src block asynchronously [9.7-pre (release_9.6.17-1131-gc9ed03.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-01 14:56 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-03  1:30   ` Jack Kamm
2024-02-04 15:07     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-05  1:37       ` Jack Kamm
2024-02-05 14:29         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-06 19:24           ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-07 16:19             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-07 17:40               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-08  3:21             ` Jack Kamm
2024-02-15 20:02             ` Asynchronous blocks for everything (was Re: [BUG] Unexpected result when evaluating python src block asynchronously [9.7-pre (release_9.6.17-1131-gc9ed03.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]) Matt
2024-02-16 17:52               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-18 21:14                 ` Matt
2024-02-19  0:31                   ` Jack Kamm
2024-02-20 10:28                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-20 10:46                     ` tomas
2024-02-20 11:00                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-20 11:03                         ` tomas
2024-02-21 15:27                   ` Bruno Barbier
     [not found]                   ` <notmuch-sha1-61e086e33bd1faf1a123c1b0353cf2102c71bdac>
2024-02-28 10:18                     ` Pending contents in org documents (Re: Asynchronous blocks for everything (was Re: ...)) Bruno Barbier
2024-03-02 10:03                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-02 10:57                         ` Bruno Barbier
2024-03-02 11:13                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-02 18:06                             ` Bruno Barbier
     [not found]                             ` <notmuch-sha1-d2799a191385bf51811d7788856a83b4f5a1fe3b>
2024-03-07 17:08                               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-03-07 18:29                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-08 14:19                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2024-03-13  9:48                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-19  9:33                                       ` Bruno Barbier [this message]
2024-03-20 10:23                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-21 10:06                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2024-03-21 12:15                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-25 17:46                                               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-03-27 11:29                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-30 22:53                                                   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-04-04 16:35                                                     ` Bruno Barbier
2024-04-04 16:33                                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2024-04-11 11:44                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-19 11:23                                                       ` Bruno Barbier
2024-04-20 10:07                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-12 16:43                                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2024-05-19  9:39                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-23 16:31                                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2024-05-24  9:49                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-30 19:01                                                               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-05-31  9:48                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-01  6:28                                                                   ` Pending contents in org documents Bruno Barbier
2024-06-03 11:04                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-15  7:49                                                                       ` Bruno Barbier
2024-06-16  9:31                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-07  9:15                                                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2024-07-07 12:13                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-18  8:05                                                                               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-07-19 14:23                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-31  8:47                                                                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2024-08-02 16:48                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12  7:14                                                                                       ` Bruno Barbier
2024-08-13  9:49                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-19  0:15                 ` Asynchronous blocks for everything (was Re: [BUG] Unexpected result when evaluating python src block asynchronously [9.7-pre (release_9.6.17-1131-gc9ed03.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]) Jack Kamm
2024-02-21 15:43                   ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-19  9:06                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-19 19:47                   ` Matt
2024-02-19 20:10                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-20  8:32                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-20 17:04                     ` Jack Kamm
2024-02-21 16:03                   ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-23 12:11                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-23 13:24                       ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-24 11:59                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-24 16:42                           ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-24 19:54                             ` Matt
2024-02-28 10:21                               ` Bruno Barbier
2024-02-08  3:26           ` [BUG] Unexpected result when evaluating python src block asynchronously [9.7-pre (release_9.6.17-1131-gc9ed03.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Jack Kamm

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