Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Bastien]

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce "Worg" (say "hello Worg!").  Worg is an attempt
to implement distributed editing of .org files.  The purpose is:

  1. to edit .org files together 
  2. to have a nice user-contributed website around Org, GTD, planning
  3. to see whether we can really *share tasks* over the web with Org

The Worg website is the output of the .org files.  Browse it here:

  http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/worg/

The git repository of .org files lives here:

  http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git

Anyone is welcome to contribute.  If you would like to do so, here are
the first steps you need to go thru (ask for help):

  1. create a SSH key
  2. create a user on repo.or.cz (and tell me your username)
  3. install git
  4. pull the Worg repository somewhere on your disk

All this doesn't take very long and is explained here:

  http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/worg/worg-git.html

Once you've done that, here is a typical sequence of wor^D^Dfun:

  1. go to your Worg directory 
  2. pull any changes made by others (~$ git pull)
  3. write tutorials and code and whatever you want
  4. commit your changes (~$ git commit -a -m "My changes")
  5. push your changes (~$ git push)

That's it.  You can even work offline safely, pulling and pushing will
take care of any conflicts as simply as possible.

So instead of feeling lazy about some tutorial you want to write, just
write the beginning of the tuturial, and add a new task for someone:

** TODO Please continue my tutorial [[file:mytutorial.org][here]]

If you add the ~/org/Worg/worg-todo.org file to your agenda files, then
you will see this task sneaking into YOUR list of tasks.  I know, tasks
are very intimate things, but YOU define the way you want Worg-related
tasks to be displayed in your agenda views.

There is way too much knowledge and code snipets living on this mailing
list, I guess Worg would help beginners find their way thru Worg, and
others find a more central place where to elaborate ideas and code.

Enjoy,

-- 
Bastien

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Bastien]

Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> writes:

> I've just made an account, my username is "wacko". Will you bless me
> with push access? :)

When people kindly push my bless-access, I can't resist.  Done :)

-- 
Bastien

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[cezar]

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 07:49:19 +0000, Bastien wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm pleased to announce "Worg" (say "hello Worg!").  Worg is an attempt
> to implement distributed editing of .org files.  The purpose is:
> 
>   1. to edit .org files together
>   2. to have a nice user-contributed website around Org, GTD, planning
>   3. to see whether we can really *share tasks* over the web with Org
> 
> The Worg website is the output of the .org files.  Browse it here:
> 
>   http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/worg/
> 
> The git repository of .org files lives here:
> 
>   http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git
> 
> Anyone is welcome to contribute.  If you would like to do so, here are
> the first steps you need to go thru (ask for help):
> 
>   1. create a SSH key
>   2. create a user on repo.or.cz (and tell me your username) 3. install
>   git
>   4. pull the Worg repository somewhere on your disk
> 
> All this doesn't take very long and is explained here:
> 
>   http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/worg/worg-git.html
> 
> Once you've done that, here is a typical sequence of wor^D^Dfun:
> 
>   1. go to your Worg directory
>   2. pull any changes made by others (~$ git pull) 3. write tutorials
>   and code and whatever you want 4. commit your changes (~$ git commit
>   -a -m "My changes") 5. push your changes (~$ git push)
> 
> That's it.  You can even work offline safely, pulling and pushing will
> take care of any conflicts as simply as possible.
> 
> So instead of feeling lazy about some tutorial you want to write, just
> write the beginning of the tuturial, and add a new task for someone:
> 
> ** TODO Please continue my tutorial [[file:mytutorial.org][here]]
> 
> If you add the ~/org/Worg/worg-todo.org file to your agenda files, then
> you will see this task sneaking into YOUR list of tasks.  I know, tasks
> are very intimate things, but YOU define the way you want Worg-related
> tasks to be displayed in your agenda views.
> 
> There is way too much knowledge and code snipets living on this mailing
> list, I guess Worg would help beginners find their way thru Worg, and
> others find a more central place where to elaborate ideas and code.
> 
> Enjoy,

Great idea !

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[David O'Toole]

Hi Bastien,

Now that the holidays are over, I am back to hacking. I'd like to
write some org-mode    material (perhaps on GTD, perhaps other stuff)
and maybe it would make sense to contribute my org-radio annotator
thing to the repository (if anyone is interested).

On 1/7/08, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm pleased to announce "Worg" (say "hello Worg!").  Worg is an attempt
> to implement distributed editing of .org files.  The purpose is:
>
>   1. to edit .org files together
>   2. to have a nice user-contributed website around Org, GTD, planning
>   3. to see whether we can really *share tasks* over the web with Org
>
> The Worg website is the output of the .org files.  Browse it here:
>
>   http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/worg/
>
> The git repository of .org files lives here:
>
>   http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git
>
> Anyone is welcome to contribute.  If you would like to do so, here are
> the first steps you need to go thru (ask for help):
>
>   1. create a SSH key
>   2. create a user on repo.or.cz (and tell me your username)
>   3. install git
>   4. pull the Worg repository somewhere on your disk
>
> All this doesn't take very long and is explained here:
>
>   http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/worg/worg-git.html
>
> Once you've done that, here is a typical sequence of wor^D^Dfun:
>
>   1. go to your Worg directory
>   2. pull any changes made by others (~$ git pull)
>   3. write tutorials and code and whatever you want
>   4. commit your changes (~$ git commit -a -m "My changes")
>   5. push your changes (~$ git push)
>
> That's it.  You can even work offline safely, pulling and pushing will
> take care of any conflicts as simply as possible.
>
> So instead of feeling lazy about some tutorial you want to write, just
> write the beginning of the tuturial, and add a new task for someone:
>
> ** TODO Please continue my tutorial [[file:mytutorial.org][here]]
>
> If you add the ~/org/Worg/worg-todo.org file to your agenda files, then
> you will see this task sneaking into YOUR list of tasks.  I know, tasks
> are very intimate things, but YOU define the way you want Worg-related
> tasks to be displayed in your agenda views.
>
> There is way too much knowledge and code snipets living on this mailing
> list, I guess Worg would help beginners find their way thru Worg, and
> others find a more central place where to elaborate ideas and code.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> --
> Bastien
>
>
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Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Piotr Zielinski]

On Jan 13, 2008 4:09 PM, David O'Toole <dto@gnu.org> wrote:
> ... maybe it would make sense to contribute my org-radio annotator
> thing to the repository (if anyone is interested).

I haven't tried org-radio yet, but it sounds useful, so count me as interested.

Piotr

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Bastien]

"David O'Toole" <dto@gnu.org> writes:

> Now that the holidays are over, I am back to hacking. 

Good to hear.  I'm just back from an email blackout.

> I'd like to write some org-mode material (perhaps on GTD, perhaps
> other stuff) and maybe it would make sense to contribute my org-radio
> annotator thing to the repository (if anyone is interested).

Sure!  Normaly you should be able to commit to Worg's repository.

For org-radio.el : 

- Can you send the link back here?

- I think Phil and you could put your effort in common, since
  org-annotate-file.el is scratching at the same itching need.

Thanks,

-- 
Bastien

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Phil Jackson]

David,

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> "David O'Toole" <dto@gnu.org> writes:
>> Now that the holidays are over, I am back to hacking.
>
> Good to hear.  I'm just back from an email blackout.

[...]

>> contribute my org-radio annotator thing to the repository (if anyone
>> is interested).
>
> Sure!  Normaly you should be able to commit to Worg's repository.

[...]

> - I think Phil and you could put your effort in common, since
>   org-annotate-file.el is scratching at the same itching need.

I must have skipped over radio thinking it was something to do solely
with audio :( I went back to your original announcement and it sounds
like we really are doing the same thing. I can't actually find org-radio
(the link to the repo doesn't work anymore) to see how much better your
code is than mine and or sabotage the repository :)

Happy to swap/lend/steal/merge anything you think we should or we could
go into a bitter competition involving spies, bribery and litigation.

Phil
-- 
 Phil Jackson
 http://www.shellarchive.co.uk

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[David O'Toole]

http://dto.mamalala.org/eon/radio.el

I haven't worked on it in a little while, as I've been hacking on Eon
and org-publish.el. But, some people may find it of interest. I do
intend to use it for audio, because it allows you to annotate binaries
as well (by making a separate little note file.)

On Jan 16, 2008 4:48 AM, Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> wrote:
> David,
>
> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
>
> > "David O'Toole" <dto@gnu.org> writes:
> >> Now that the holidays are over, I am back to hacking.
> >
> > Good to hear.  I'm just back from an email blackout.
>
> [...]
>
> >> contribute my org-radio annotator thing to the repository (if anyone
> >> is interested).
> >
> > Sure!  Normaly you should be able to commit to Worg's repository.
>
> [...]
>
> > - I think Phil and you could put your effort in common, since
> >   org-annotate-file.el is scratching at the same itching need.
>
> I must have skipped over radio thinking it was something to do solely
> with audio :( I went back to your original announcement and it sounds
> like we really are doing the same thing. I can't actually find org-radio
> (the link to the repo doesn't work anymore) to see how much better your
> code is than mine and or sabotage the repository :)
>
> Happy to swap/lend/steal/merge anything you think we should or we could
> go into a bitter competition involving spies, bribery and litigation.
>
> Phil
> --
>  Phil Jackson
>  http://www.shellarchive.co.uk
>

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[David O'Toole]

It occurs to me that I probably shouldn't put radio.el in the worg
repo, because I maintain it as part of Eon, and other parts of Eon
will depend on it (in particular, the sound audition/annotation thing
i described.) But the URL i gave (http://dto.mamalala.org/eon/radio.el
) is the standard location for the file (it's an hourly svn update),
and I'm happy to take feature requests / bug reports on this list.

On Jan 16, 2008 9:36 AM, David O'Toole <dto@gnu.org> wrote:
> http://dto.mamalala.org/eon/radio.el
>
> I haven't worked on it in a little while, as I've been hacking on Eon
> and org-publish.el. But, some people may find it of interest. I do
> intend to use it for audio, because it allows you to annotate binaries
> as well (by making a separate little note file.)
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 4:48 AM, Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
> >
> > > "David O'Toole" <dto@gnu.org> writes:
> > >> Now that the holidays are over, I am back to hacking.
> > >
> > > Good to hear.  I'm just back from an email blackout.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> contribute my org-radio annotator thing to the repository (if anyone
> > >> is interested).
> > >
> > > Sure!  Normaly you should be able to commit to Worg's repository.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > - I think Phil and you could put your effort in common, since
> > >   org-annotate-file.el is scratching at the same itching need.
> >
> > I must have skipped over radio thinking it was something to do solely
> > with audio :( I went back to your original announcement and it sounds
> > like we really are doing the same thing. I can't actually find org-radio
> > (the link to the repo doesn't work anymore) to see how much better your
> > code is than mine and or sabotage the repository :)
> >
> > Happy to swap/lend/steal/merge anything you think we should or we could
> > go into a bitter competition involving spies, bribery and litigation.
> >
> > Phil
> > --
> >  Phil Jackson
> >  http://www.shellarchive.co.uk
> >
>

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Phil Jackson]

"David O'Toole" <dto@gnu.org> writes:

>> Happy to swap/lend/steal/merge anything you think we should or we
>> could go into a bitter competition involving spies, bribery and
>> litigation.

> http://dto.mamalala.org/eon/radio.el
>
> I haven't worked on it in a little while, as I've been hacking on Eon
> and org-publish.el. But, some people may find it of interest. I do
> intend to use it for audio, because it allows you to annotate binaries
> as well (by making a separate little note file.)

It's amazing how similar they are. An important difference, for me, is
that org-annotate-file doesn't modify its target file (my fellow team
members wouldn't be happy with me putting UUIDs in our code base
:)). Having said that org-annotate-file uses the 'file:name::search'
syntax which means potentially matching the wrong line if there are
identical ones.

Swings and roundabouts I suppose.

Cheers,
Phil
-- 
 Phil Jackson
 http://www.shellarchive.co.uk

Re: Announcing Worg (Web-Org)

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Josh Moller-Mara <jmm@CNS.NYU.EDU> writes:

> ~org-toggle-tag~ now seems to delete currently set tags for a heading. It
> seems that calling ~(match-string 1)~ after ~(replace-match "")~ makes
> the former return an empty string, so the ~current~ tags get set as an
> empty string. It also still seems to set a blank tag ("::") if there was
> a tag set previously.

Indeed. Fixed. Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou