Failed to create radio tables

Failed to create radio tables

[Angel Popov]

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Hi, 

I am following example on radio tables but it looks that it does not work.
I copied
     % BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy       % END RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy       
\begin{comment}       #+ORGLIST: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex       - a new house       
- a new computer         + a new keyboard         + a new mouse       - a new 
life       \end{comment}

and when I C-c C-c on '- a new house' nothing happend

Regards, Angel



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Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Bernt Hansen]

Angel Popov <angelpopov@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hi, 
> I am following example on radio tables but it looks that it does not work.
> I copied
>
>      % BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy
>      % END RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy
>      \begin{comment}
>      #+ORGLIST: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex
>      - a new house
>      - a new computer
>        + a new keyboard
>        + a new mouse
>      - a new life
>      \end{comment}
>
> and when I C-c C-c on '- a new house' nothing happend
>
> Regards, Angel

Hi Angel,

I'm not sure what it is you are trying to accomplish.  A link to the
example you are following would have been helpful.

Maybe you mean checkbox lists?

     - [ ] a new house
     - [ ] a new computer
       + [ ] a new keyboard
       + [ ] a new mouse
     - [ ] a new life

then C-c C-c toggles the checkbox on and off.

-Bernt

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nick Dokos]

Angel Popov <angelpopov@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi, 
> I am following example on radio tables but it looks that it does not work.
> I copied
> 
>      % BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy
>      % END RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy
>      \begin{comment}
>      #+ORGLIST: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex
>      - a new house
>      - a new computer
>        + a new keyboard
>        + a new mouse
>      - a new life
>      \end{comment}
> 
> and when I C-c C-c on '- a new house' nothing happend
> 

Well, you are not following the example exactly (App. A.5.2 of the Org
manual): you are trying to extend it to lists and I'm not sure that you
can do that.  So let me go back to the example in the manual and explain
the rationale:

The idea is that specifying tables in Org is easy, but specifying tables
in LaTeX is harder. It would be convenient if you could use Org mode
syntax for tables *in your LaTeX file* and have the LaTeX table
generated automatically from that.  That's what radio tables do for you:
in your LaTeX file, you include the table in Org syntax *as a comment* and
then you use orgtbl facilities to automatically generate your LaTeX
table.

So here's my LaTeX file with the example table:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}
Here's a table of stuff:

% BEGIN RECEIVE ORGTBL to-buy
% END RECEIVE ORGTBL to-buy


\begin{comment}
The Org table is inside a LaTeX comment.

#+ORGTBL: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex
| foo | bar |
|-----+-----|
|   1 |   2 |
|   3 |   4 |
\end{comment}

\end{document}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

When you edit this file, the major mode of the buffer is going to be
LaTeX-mode, not Org-mode. This is where orgtbl-mode comes in: it's a
minor mode, so you can enable it in your LaTeX-mode buffer:

M-x orgtbl-mode <RET>

and then you have the orgtbl facilities available in the buffer where
you are editing your LaTeX file. Now put your cursor somewhere in the
Org table and say C-c C-c - presto, change-o, you get this:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}
Here's a table of stuff:

% BEGIN RECEIVE ORGTBL to-buy
\begin{tabular}{rr}
foo & bar \\
\hline
1 & 2 \\
3 & 4 \\
\end{tabular}
% END RECEIVE ORGTBL to-buy


\begin{comment}
The Org table is inside a LaTeX comment.

#+ORGTBL: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex
| foo | bar |
|-----+-----|
|   1 |   2 |
|   3 |   4 |
\end{comment}

\end{document}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Process this with LaTeX and you get a nicely typeset table, without
having to worry much about the finicky LaTeX syntax. Plus, if you
need to change the table, you change the Org table in the comment,
press C-c C-c again and the change is propagated automatically to the
LaTeX table.

In addition, if you enable orgtbl-mode before you even start, then you
have all the nice shortcuts for *editing* the Org table in the first
place. In fact, it's handy to have orgtbl-mode *always* enabled when you
edit LaTeX files. You can do that by using the appropriate hook.  For
example, if you use AucTeX, add the following line to your .emacs (after
the place where AucTeX is initialized, so that it has a chance to define
the hook):

  (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'orgtbl-mode)


AFAIK, you *cannot* do something similar with lists (which is what
you seem to have tried with your modifications to the example), but lists
are much easier to deal with directly in LaTeX.

Hope this makes things clearer,
Nick

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,
>>>>> Angel Popov writes:
> I copied
>      % BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy       % END RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy       
> \begin{comment}       #+ORGLIST: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex       - a new house       
> - a new computer         + a new keyboard         + a new mouse       - a new 
> life       \end{comment}

> and when I C-c C-c on '- a new house' nothing happend

Try this:

-----
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}
% BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST tobuy
% END RECEIVE ORGLST tobuy       

\begin{comment}       
#+ORGLST: SEND tobuy org-list-to-latex       
- a new house       
- a new computer
  + a new keyboard         
  + a new mouse       
- a new life       
\end{comment}
\end{document}
-----

and M-x org-list-send-list anywhere on the list. It works here.

Regards,

-- Nicolas

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nick Dokos]

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:

> 
> AFAIK, you *cannot* do something similar with lists (which is what
> you seem to have tried with your modifications to the example), but lists
> are much easier to deal with directly in LaTeX.
> 

I stand corrected: as Nicolas Goaziou points out elsewhere in this
thread, you *can* do that with lists - afaict, the only thing missing is
the handy C-c C-c keybinding - or am I wrong about this too?

Thanks,
Nick

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,
>>>>> Nick Dokos writes:

> Afaict, the only thing missing is the handy C-c C-c keybinding - or
> am I wrong about this too?

You're right. There is no keybinding for that. Though, as a little
relief, with proper completion, M-x olsl TAB RET is enough.

Regards,

-- Nicolas

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nick Dokos]

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Afaict, the only thing missing is the handy C-c C-c keybinding - or
> > am I wrong about this too?
> 
> You're right. There is no keybinding for that. Though, as a little
> relief, with proper completion, M-x olsl TAB RET is enough.
> 

I expect Carsten will have incorporated it in orgtbl-ctrl-c-ctrl-c by this
time tomorrow :-) Seriously, I don't mind the typing: I just won't
remember the name of the function, but that's my problem, not yours ;-)

As an aside, I get different lists radioed, depending on where point
is when I call the function: if I'm in the second-level list, only
that is radioed; if I'm somewhere in the first level, the whole list
is radioed. Bug or feature? Or maybe pilot error?

Thanks,
Nick

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nick Dokos]

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> >>>>> Nick Dokos writes:
> 
> > Afaict, the only thing missing is the handy C-c C-c keybinding - or
> > am I wrong about this too?
> 
> You're right. There is no keybinding for that. Though, as a little
> relief, with proper completion, M-x olsl TAB RET is enough.
> 

BTW, Angel was reading appending A.5.4 (not A.5.2 as I mistakenly
assumed) and afaict, he is right: first of all, there is a typo in the
appendix (ORGLIST vs ORGLST); second, the name of the list ("to-buy")
includes a dash, but the regexp in org-list-send-list does not match it:
it works better if the dash is replaced by an underscore in the example,
but maybe the regexp should be made more general.

But the appendix also claims that C-c C-c on the first element of the
list *should* work, and I don't think it does - but it's not clear to me
what minor mode(s) should be in operation in order for this to work.
What binding should I expect for C-C C-c at that poing?

Thanks,
Nick

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

>>>>> Nick Dokos writes:
> Second, the name of the list ("to-buy") includes a dash, but the
> regexp in org-list-send-list does not match it: it works better if
> the dash is replaced by an underscore in the example, but maybe the
> regexp should be made more general.

I've already corrected this and the problem of nested lists you're
talking about in my branch redefining lists.

The regexp was indeed too specific: it is now on par with the one used
in ORGTBL. I also redefined org-list-radio-list-templates as they
were inserting a table and not a list.

About the binding, C-c C-c is not a good choice (do I want to send
list or toggle check-box?). Anyway it should belong to orgstruct-mode,
IMO.

Regards,

-- Nicolas

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jul 11, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

> Hello,
>
>>>>>> Nick Dokos writes:
>> Second, the name of the list ("to-buy") includes a dash, but the
>> regexp in org-list-send-list does not match it: it works better if
>> the dash is replaced by an underscore in the example, but maybe the
>> regexp should be made more general.
>
> I've already corrected this and the problem of nested lists you're
> talking about in my branch redefining lists.

Corrected it where?  In you branch where you are working on the list  
code?

>
> The regexp was indeed too specific: it is now on par with the one used
> in ORGTBL. I also redefined org-list-radio-list-templates as they
> were inserting a table and not a list.

Can you make a patch for just this prblem and submit it?  I'd like
to fix this before the release.

>
> About the binding, C-c C-c is not a good choice (do I want to send
> list or toggle check-box?).

Yes, this is a bit of a problem here.  We could send the
list with C-c C-c anyway, of cause, would not hurt.
This would be parallel to tables where C-c C-c aligns the table
and sends it.

Thanks

- Carsten

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nicolas Goaziou]

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Hello,
>>>>> Carsten Dominik writes:
> Corrected it where?  In you branch where you are working on the list
> code?

Yes, on my branch. But here is the change applying to master.

Regards,

-- Nicolas


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From bceff0485db6a7f8686c1024afe1810414f78a63 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:12:57 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Fix regexp for `org-list-send-list'.

* lisp/org-list.el (org-list-send-list): regexp defining the start of
  a radio list is now on par with the one used for radio tables.
---
 lisp/org-list.el |    2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-list.el b/lisp/org-list.el
index 2aacd09..0a51ca7 100644
--- a/lisp/org-list.el
+++ b/lisp/org-list.el
@@ -1277,7 +1277,7 @@ this list."
     (save-excursion
       (org-list-goto-true-beginning)
       (beginning-of-line 0)
-      (unless (looking-at "#\\+ORGLST: *SEND +\\([a-zA-Z0-9_]+\\) +\\([^ \t\r\n]+\\)\\( +.*\\)?")
+      (unless (looking-at "[ \t]*#\\+ORGLST[: \t][ \t]*SEND[ \t]+\\([^ \t\r\n]+\\)[ \t]+\\([^ \t\r\n]+\\)\\([ \t]+.*\\)?")
 	(if maybe
 	    (throw 'exit nil)
 	  (error "Don't know how to transform this list"))))
-- 
1.7.1.1


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Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Nicolas Goaziou]

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I forgot to post changes in templates.

Btw, it seems that you reverted changes in documentation in
94689a04b00f88932e63024ae29bacea4dbcc752, but it is still #+ORGLST and
not #+ORGLIST.

Regards,

-- Nicolas


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From dff3343a8989f1f280fdf15f64bcf47ba9ac7f56 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:40:18 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Fix templates for radio list.

* lisp/org-list.el (org-list-radio-list-templates): Fix templates.
---
 lisp/org-list.el |    6 +++---
 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-list.el b/lisp/org-list.el
index 0a51ca7..49b8e2b 100644
--- a/lisp/org-list.el
+++ b/lisp/org-list.el
@@ -195,19 +195,19 @@ When the indentation would be larger than this, it will become
 % END RECEIVE ORGLST %n
 \\begin{comment}
 #+ORGLST: SEND %n org-list-to-latex
-| | |
+-
 \\end{comment}\n")
     (texinfo-mode "@c BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST %n
 @c END RECEIVE ORGLST %n
 @ignore
 #+ORGLST: SEND %n org-list-to-texinfo
-| | |
+-
 @end ignore\n")
     (html-mode "<!-- BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST %n -->
 <!-- END RECEIVE ORGLST %n -->
 <!--
 #+ORGLST: SEND %n org-list-to-html
-| | |
+-
 -->\n"))
   "Templates for radio lists in different major modes.
 All occurrences of %n in a template will be replaced with the name of the
-- 
1.7.1.1


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Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

> I forgot to post changes in templates.


Applied, thanks.

>
> Btw, it seems that you reverted changes in documentation in
> 94689a04b00f88932e63024ae29bacea4dbcc752, but it is still #+ORGLST and
> not #+ORGLIST.

I reverted them before applying your patch, assuming that you'd have  
these in your patch.
Thanks!

- Carsten

Re: Failed to create radio tables

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi everyone,

thanks to all who contributed to this thread.
Sending lists should now work as advertised, including
using C-c C-c to send the list.

- Carsten

On Jul 9, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Angel Popov wrote:

> Hi,
> I am following example on radio tables but it looks that it does not  
> work.
> I copied
>      % BEGIN RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy
>      % END RECEIVE ORGLST to-buy
>      \begin{comment}
>      #+ORGLIST: SEND to-buy orgtbl-to-latex
>      - a new house
>      - a new computer
>        + a new keyboard
>        + a new mouse
>      - a new life
>      \end{comment}
>
> and when I C-c C-c on '- a new house' nothing happend
>
> Regards, Angel
>
>
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- Carsten