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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b="q/F14BF2"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B1A339403A9 X-Spam-Score: -3.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: aUJGNfAz04ya In one of the simulation classes I teach, I try to convey the same message.=C2=A0 :-) In a past life, I had to extend applications that used Excel as a front-end with a combination of interlinked functions in spreadsheet cells plus plenty of Visual Basic with a few compiled dlls rolled into the mix. The dlls (which I wrote in fortran) were the only components for which I had any confidence. Fun times!=C2=A0 ;-) -gyro=C2=A0 On 1/31/2021 11:17 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 13:36, gyro funch wrote: >> Oooh. That should make Excel spreadsheets even funner to audit. > :-) > > I actually tell (warn?) my students that spreadsheets are an example of= > a "write-only programming language", the other being APL (for those wit= h > long memories). >