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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] New exporter exports TOC twice
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To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: Sebastien Vauban <sva-news@mygooglest.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Hi Nicolas,

On 28.4.2013, at 09:28, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>=20
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>=20
>> I am not saying multiple tocs should not be allowed.  I am all for =
that.
>> However, I think that by inserting a #+TOC line, the user indicates
>> desire for local control.  Therefore, org-export-with-toc should be =
ignored,
>> and, by extension, also #+OPTIONS: toc (because this is really a =
local way
>> to set org-export-with-toc).
>=20
> The problem is that #+TOC cannot be a strict equivalent to
> `org-export-with-toc', since the former cannot be introduced in the
> document template.

I am not sure I understand.  What do you mean?

> Also, this change would require each user back-end developer to check
> for the presence of a TOC keyword with "headlines" value in the parse
> tree when handling :with-toc property. This is not complicated, but
> there are already many uncomplicated issues to think about when =
writing
> a back-end.

An alternative would be that the parser already makes this change.  Upon
finding #+TOC, it would change the OPTION value in the parse tree.

>=20
> In a nutshell, I don't think we should try to outsmart the user by
> ignoring his setup here. I suggest to improve the manual, if needed,
> instead.

That is certainly an alternative, once I have understood the issues.

Thanks for your patience.

- Carsten=