From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Question about tracking TODO state changes and M-S-ENTER Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 21:18:55 +0200 Message-ID: <5CAFD0E0-AEA6-4EBD-B9E9-BEDDE8C78351@gmail.com> References: <4A17321F.7040806@oneroad.com> <3EBA2E79-B1BD-482D-A925-89DAB32A572F@gmail.com> <4A1CFD4A.2010202@oneroad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M9Orz-0003Cc-S6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:32:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M9Orv-00039V-5E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:32:59 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58412 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M9Oru-00039N-QY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:32:54 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f162.google.com ([209.85.219.162]:38993) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M9Oru-0003X9-8g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:32:54 -0400 Received: by mail-ew0-f162.google.com with SMTP id 6so4973488ewy.42 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A1CFD4A.2010202@oneroad.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Keith Swartz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On May 27, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: > I can see where M-S-ENTER prompting for a status note change would > be annoying. Personally, I don't use that feature, so I didn't think > of that -- I'm more interested in the timestamps. Basically, I like > being able to record /when/ something was first entered as a todo > item -- gives me a good way to see which items are the oldest. > > One thought is to record the state change, but default the status > note to "TODO created", rather than prompting for it. > > Then again, maybe a variable is the best answer here, because sooner > or later, somebody is going to want to change that. Normally, I'd > hate to add more and more variables just to complicate things, but > org-mode seems to have no shortage of them. (That's a good thing!) :) Do you now hate or like it??? :-) There is now a new variable `org-treat-insert-todo-heading-as-state-change', default nil. - Carsten > > Thanks, > Keith > > Carsten Dominik wrote: >> >> On May 26, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Manish wrote: >> >>> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Keith Swartz wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm using org-mode 6.25e right now, and I've turned on the >>>> functionality to >>>> track todo state changes. If I create a list item (M-ENTER) and >>>> then change >>>> it to a TODO (C-c C-t), it correctly puts the state change in the >>>> :LOGBOOK: drawer as I've configured it. >>>> >>>> However, if I use M-S-ENTER to combine the above two steps into >>>> one (create >>>> a "TODO" item), it does NOT create an entry in the LOGBOOK for >>>> State >>>> "TODO" from "" at all. Is that a bug? >>> >>> IMO, this is not really a state change. >> >> In interesting point, and something up for discussion. >> >> I personally am neter interesting in recording a time stamp when >> first switching an item to TODO. Furthermore, for other state >> changes I prefer to record a note. >> However, M-S-RET is really meant for fast adding of one or more >> TODO entries, and being prompted for a state change note would be >> really annoying here. >> >> Up for discussion, I am willing to install a variable here.... >> >> - Carsten >> >> >>> >>> -- >>> Manish >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >>