From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Enriched/Org is a colorful Org
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:13:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5A8E6625-33C1-4B94-A78E-B08268C57A5F@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ip3s9rp8.fsf@gnu.org>
On 12 apr. 2013, at 08:41, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:49:32 +0200
>> Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org List" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
>>
>>> Overlays should be OK as long as they aren't too many, and as long as
>>> you don't move them around too much, particularly in post-command-hook
>>> or some such.
>>
>> This explanation sounds to me as if the display engine is building
>> some kind of tree of overlays to find properties changes quickly. Too bad I don't have time to understand this stuff in more detail, it sounds interesting.
>
> Just search xdisp.c for "overlay", you will see the story quite
> clearly, I think.
My Sunday pleasure reading project.
>
> There are actually 2 aspects that make display engine's job harder
> with overlays. One is indeed that finding overlays that "cover" a
> given buffer position is not a very efficient operation. The display
> engine tries to overcome this to some extent by "centering" the
> overlay data base around the place in the buffer it is rendering.
> This is done for every screen line that is being examined by the
> display code.
>
> The other problem is that there's no easy way of finding out which
> parts of the buffer are being affected by changes in overlays. The
> consequence of this is that redisplay cannot easily determine whether
> a given portion of what's on the glass needs to be redrawn when
> overlays change. The analysis of which part(s) of a window need to be
> redrawn is at the heart of redisplay optimizations, whereby Emacs
> tries very hard to reuse the portions of display that are already up
> to date. Changes in overlays defeat that. Therefore, changing _any_
> overlays in a buffer disables most, if not all, redisplay
> optimizations, meaning that the entire portion of the buffer that is
> displayed will be completely redrawn each time overlays _anywhere_ in
> the buffer are changed.
Wow. OK. I need to think to that, and I will try to take a
fresh look at overlay use in Org.
So the reason that the combination with hi-line is slow is because
hl-line is using post-command-hook to move its overlay, and redisplay
of a full window with org-mode is slow because so much stuff is
hidden and Emacs makes a full re-evaluation of what needs
to be displayed?
This makes sense.
Thanks for taking the time to get me this far.
- Carsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-12 7:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-10 4:02 Enriched/Org is a colorful Org Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 9:54 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-10 10:16 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-10 10:39 ` Torsten Wagner
2013-04-10 10:48 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-10 10:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-10 11:20 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-04-10 11:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-10 12:15 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 11:57 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-10 16:43 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-10 19:58 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-10 20:16 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-04-11 2:58 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-11 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-11 22:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-12 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-12 7:13 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-04-12 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-12 10:56 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-12 11:49 ` Torsten Wagner
2013-04-12 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-12 18:00 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-12 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-13 10:50 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-12 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-13 12:24 ` Sean O'Halpin
2013-04-13 14:38 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-13 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-12 8:35 ` Bastien
2013-04-12 14:45 ` François Pinard
2013-04-18 20:37 ` Samuel Wales
2013-04-11 17:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-11 22:46 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-10 12:12 ` Jambunathan K
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