Re: Re: Refile target caching

[Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>]

On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:

> On 2010-08-16, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>> Yes, sorting is one of the issues that will loose markers.
>
> Do you think that a cautious move here would be to compare the
> headline of the target to the headline you think matches the target?
> Then the refile can be aborted if they do not match.

Hi Samuel,

yes, this is in fact a good secure measure - sorry for making it you
say it three times before getting the idea.

This should be working now.

Best wishes

- Carsten

>
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>>
>>> Samuel
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S.  The running clock also gets lost all the time.  Even when
>>> point is in it!
>>>
>>> On 2010-08-16, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 2, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for thinking of our bugs.  This is superb.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used it for a while now.
>>>>>
>>>>> It speeds things up enormously, making the difference between
>>>>> usability and not.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I have definitely had headlines get refiled to the wrong
>>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Ouch, this is bad.
>>>>
>>>> If you do a lot of moving stuff around in the buffer, the markers
>>>> pointing to refile locations will become wrong.  So you then need
>>>> to clear the cache, to make sure you get fresh positions.
>>>>
>>>> A good example where it goes wrong would, of cause, be useful.
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am not able to track it down now, but I do have a
>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==> Would it be possible to print the actual target that the
>>>>> headline
>>>>> got refiled to, instead of the name associated with the marker?   
>>>>> At
>>>>> present, org says that it successfully refiled to the target
>>>>> headline
>>>>> when it did not.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==> Alternatively, org could compare the actual headline it was
>>>>> refiled to against the headline it was supposed to refile to.   
>>>>> Then
>>>>> you'd get an error if they do not match.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the bugs, I cannot investigate further now.  Debugging is
>>>>> difficult for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps more error checking as above will make the bug show up
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Samuel
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-05-17, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Sebastian, hi Samuel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember that both of you have in the past reported that  
>>>>>> refiling
>>>>>> has a long startup time because of target collection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have now built a cache for refile targets and would like you to
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (setq org-refile-use-cache t)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will speed up refile target collection for the second and
>>>>>> further
>>>>>> instance.
>>>>>> If you are moving or adding entries that are targets themselves,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> chace needs to be cleared with prefix arg 0 (zero), i.e. `C-0 C-c
>>>>>> C-
>>>>>> w'
>>>>>> or, if you prefer, with a triple C-u prefix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samuel, note that this only speeds up target collection - it does
>>>>>> nothing to the overhead added by ido - so we will have to see how
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> this helps for your use-case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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- Carsten