Re: Web site bug

[Simon Thum <simon.thum@gmx.de>]

Hi Bastien,

thanks a lot for clarifying this. One nit left, see below.

I'm having a look at putting a summary in worg.

Thanks,

Simon

On 10/27/2012 09:33 AM, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Simon Thum<simon.thum@gmx.de>  writes:
>
>> Sorry but to me this just worsens the (or my) confusion around
>> org-install.
>>
>> In git we find this org-install.el:
>>
>> ;;; org-install.el --- autogenerated file, do not edit
>> ;;
>> ;;; Code:
>> (warn "The file org-install is obsolete.
>> Please change your configuration to (require 'org) instead.")
>
> Yes, this was confusing.  I updated this file like this
>
>    ;;; org-install.el --- backward compatibility file for obsolete configuration
>    ;;
>    ;;; Code:
>    (warn "The file org-install is obsolete.
>    It is provided here so that (require 'org-install) does not
>    trigger an error for users with obsolete Emacs configuration.
>    You can safely remove (require 'org-install) from your config.")

Judging from what you say further down there are use-cases left where 
this is bad advice, namely the distribution archives and git.


>
>    (provide 'org-install)
>
>    ;; Local Variables:
>    ;; no-byte-compile: t
>    ;; coding: utf-8
>    ;; End:
>    ;;; org-install.el ends here
>
> I hope it is clearer.
>
>> Apart from it not being autogenerated, it's confusing that I should use
>> org instead.
>
> Indeed.  The main message is: you don't need (require 'org-install)
> anymore.  It used to be needed to get the correct autoloads but it is
> not anymore, as autoloads are taken from org-autoloads.el, which is
> either provided (in the distrib tar.gz/zip archives) or dynamically
> generated (from "make").
>
>> Which is the recommended thing in what setup? If ELPA needs not even 'org,
>> which AFAIK is not the case, then what? And what about git installs?
>
> If you use Org from Emacs, you don't need anything.
>
> If you use Org from the distribution archives, you need to add the
> directory with the extracted directory in your load-path and to add
> (require 'org) after adding the Org directory to the load-path.
>
> If you use Org from git, you need the above plus runing "make" or
> "make autoloads" so that the correct autoloads are loaded.
>
> If you use Org from ELPA, you just need to add (package-initialize)
> before any Org configuration of the type (setq org-* ...).
>
>> I guess I'm wholly confused now.
>
> I hope I helped to clarify things.
>
> I also remove any reference to org-install in
> http://orgmode.org/elpa.html since the ELPA archive is produced
> from maint, which is>7.9.2 anyway.
>
> Thanks for the heads up,
>