Re: are super-hidden technical blocks required?

["Christopher J. White" <orgmode@grierwhite.com>]

Nice!  I like this approach.  The only slight change I would make is to 
the "All entries are unfolded one level".  If there are only "hidden" 
properties but there is other content, show the other content but not 
the PROPERTIES drawer:

    * All entries are unfolded one level
    ** Only "hidden" properties with other content
       This is more content

The ":PROPERTIES:" is not shown.

Question -- are you proposing a new step in cycling that opens all 
property drawers, or is this already available via some command or 
setting?  I've never seen a way to open everything including PROPERTIES 
via Tab or S-Tab cycling.

...cj


On 8/7/12 9:20 AM, Torsten Wagner wrote:
> Hey Bastien,
>
> On 7 August 2012 19:23, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>> that a drawer doesn't make an
>> entry non-empty while cycling,
>
> ohhh you challenge us... "does not ... non-empty".... is in fact the
> same like "if there is only a drawer, the entry is still empty"....
> right ?!
>
> Yes, I agree that should be separated.
>
> Maybe an idea would be a rule like....
> if all properties in a drawer are marked as hidden and there is
> nothing else for the particular entry (no body), do not open the entry
> for the next cycling rounds.
> I just tested a bit and org-mode is clever enough already to avoid any
> text-insertion before the property drawer if text get added to a
> collapsed entry.
> Thus, this rule just might work and hide "technical" properties
> completely during cycling.
> Combined with a #+HIDDEN_PROP: line each and everyone can adjust
> individually how much and what he likes to hide.
>
> #+HIDDEN_PROP: * <----- all properties are hidden
> would be the extreme and all property drawers will be hidden in case
> they are the only element of a entry. In case other elements are
> included, they collapsed drawer line will be dimmed by a different
> face to indicate that only "hidden" properties are included
>
> #+HIDDEN_PROP:    <---- this means no properties are hidden
> would be the other extreme and nothing would be hidden (that
> essentially would represent the present state).
>
> I created two mock-ups. One shows the present solution and the other
> shows how certain properties can be marked "hidden" and which effect
> does this have on different level and combinations. Hope that helps
> within this discussion. I choose a arbitrary colour scheme to make it
> rather good visible.
>
> Torsten
>