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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619747355; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=6Ow27FgGy/OxY9GMTOdWDwl0LEhejl83/9e7JCWfJzA=; b=JtsVbWSEASwj5styBtejd+6X8iimNQkHZGNEx0mq5KE4WHF9J6gUtJ62KXXEibxVF59r7b DmT/55Hy3jYr/oR/hZ57sS6FtoQDqNrHw0duB170Y4Mjq3tAyD+rju4/y6gC1yTZQfD/12 zH+eJ1H99imSELg/izzHrRK5bJDqyyR0rtwJMeVGZ3rStkcxGUr2GYNXYOEa1kCj3wK+Xk TLii4Dy5HuUVdrt4NXy3I0m4Elbo9X1g7adVUbCwN9Cvd5GhTmXVQ/je3BXrZMXH7eajeu 34PzTxBCyjTT/nZpNrGgji79BCZFJkkwuh4h/UYaxwUEQUbgxLohVwmTUGEZYA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619747355; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=GIwiJmwOcNCqOHAMCi2JbnwinhkIiTIGYkuytuL5GpEREPNZ44CBJkVbMDNwM14HjL89oC j1pwuw30OXFfr2G/ISczDXQZEFq1mf8w76+iE+x83Zy0mb5iY88EWmWFMIgLHBJWeFm8Nx 99mkkmod0j0aH5hAZc9MLD5E6ga7JlJua2FMypZM4cnEp02stlKfk9MAxpq7zDnX0zgoIi K7usY20dT8EqbRiIzxG9RcTrc5aOg8539/SdidN4ERT6cuukqe+9VW2VjkTHJx7mWUcIPW hlwf6+0JTbR6Dlt0vA1u47PdFhBmtFbpmp3hoJ/gCnoXAPG1PXbu+KSHWDwv/Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=isnotmyreal.name header.s=default header.b=brEO7VUD; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=isnotmyreal.name header.s=default header.b=brEO7VUD; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 09C3D17EB5 X-Spam-Score: -1.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: JDdepbkX9gRG On 2021-04-29 18:18, Samuel Wales wrote: > On 4/29/21, TRS-80 wrote: >> My "quick and dirty" solution was to make a function to map over each >> heading and assign a custom ID based on the text of the heading. It >> only assigned one if one did not exist already (so in case you had >> done any manual adjustments they would not be overwritten). >> >> I had posted it very early in the thread, but it did not seem to gain >> much interest. It was not posted as a "long term and proper solution >> to be included into Orgmode" but rather a quick and easy workaround in >> the meantime. > thank you. i can imagine that could be useful for a lot of users, but > for me, as i said in my op, "short of adding custom id > or id to everything" --- i didn't want to add custom id. i will try > to clarify why in case it is useful. Well, FWIW, I did not want to assign custom IDs, either. :) Like you, I didn't want to "pollute" the properties drawer, etc. However after looking into the options, including discussing this issue on the mailing list myself some time ago, I realized that this was going to be a major change in Orgmode, that it had been discussed before (multiple times), and therefore would require (perhaps significant) politicking, etc... And so then I assigned custom IDs to all my entries, and got on about my business. I now have achieved stable links when exporting. ;) I still support your (and others') efforts toward a more proper and long term solution, I just think they are going to take a while to bear fruit is all. Cheers, TRS-80