Re: `C-u 2 S-Tab' with `#+STARTUP: odd'

[Michael Brand <michael.brand@alumni.ethz.ch>]

> I have troube understanding what you mean.
> 
> An outline heading looks like this
> 
> *** heading
> 
> If the cursor is at the first character of that line, org-outline-level 
> will return 3.

I want `3' _independently_ of on which column the cursor is on that line and therefore use (save-excursion (beginning-of-line) (org-outline-level)).

> If the line looks different, the return value will be badly 
> determined (governed by the most recent match of a regular expression 
> anywhere in Emacs, might be anything).

To cover this I use (outline-on-heading-p), without the optional parameter in my case.

> If you need to find out, in a lisp program, if you are at the beginning 
> of a headline, use
> 
>  (and (org-at-heading-p t) (bolp))

The matter is that within any one line I rather want to _ignore_ the column than to _know_ on which column the cursor is.

With all discussed here in this thread combined together I use
(if (outline-on-heading-p)
    (org-reduced-level
     (save-excursion (beginning-of-line) (org-outline-level)))
  '0)))
for my suggestion of heading visibility depth stepping described here
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/17581/focus=18392