* Suppress linkification of external links possible?
@ 2009-02-17 11:44 Ulf Stegemann
2009-02-17 12:20 ` Matthew Lundin
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0 siblings, 4 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-17 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi all,
just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the automagical
linkification of external links? I have a document here for tutorial
purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like
'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of those addresses is rather
disturbing.
Ulf
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 11:44 Suppress linkification of external links possible? Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-17 12:20 ` Matthew Lundin 2009-02-17 12:46 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-02-17 20:40 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-02-17 12:21 ` Giovanni Ridolfi ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Matthew Lundin @ 2009-02-17 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Ulf, Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> writes: > Hi all, > > just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the automagical > linkification of external links? I have a document here for tutorial > purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like > 'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of those addresses is rather > disturbing. You can customize the variable org-activate-links and remove "plain" from the list. Regards, Matt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 12:20 ` Matthew Lundin @ 2009-02-17 12:46 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-02-17 20:40 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-02-17 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes: > Hi Ulf, > > Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the automagical >> linkification of external links? I have a document here for tutorial >> purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like >> 'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of those addresses is rather >> disturbing. > > You can customize the variable org-activate-links and remove "plain" > from the list. Hihi - it's that simple :-D And I'm trying to ... oh please, ignore my answers in this thread :) -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 12:20 ` Matthew Lundin 2009-02-17 12:46 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-02-17 20:40 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-02-17 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann I am always amazed to find out how deep some people dig into the variables :-) - Carsten On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: > Hi Ulf, > > Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the automagical >> linkification of external links? I have a document here for tutorial >> purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like >> 'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of those addresses is >> rather >> disturbing. > > You can customize the variable org-activate-links and remove "plain" > from the list. > > Regards, > Matt > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 11:44 Suppress linkification of external links possible? Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-17 12:20 ` Matthew Lundin @ 2009-02-17 12:21 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 2009-02-17 13:05 ` Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-17 12:36 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-02-17 12:42 ` Sebastian Rose 3 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-17 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann --- Mar 17/2/09, Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> ha scritto: > just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the > automagical > linkification of external links? I have a document here for > tutorial > purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like > 'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of > those addresses is rather disturbing. You can write: 1. [[ ][http://gateway.example.org]] ^^^ please note the space here when converted it should refer to http://your-server/yourfile# 2. use valid addresses ;-) I think that automagially *not* converting will be disturbing ;-) Moreover, how can the exporter engine know what are the correct and the incorrect addresses? Perhaps we could write the uncorrect addresses as: +http://gateway.example.org ^^^^ so the exporter "knows" that such links are to be exported litterarly dropping the "+" Giovanni Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail..yahoo.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 12:21 ` Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-17 13:05 ` Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-17 15:57 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 2009-02-17 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-17 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Thank you for all the quick responses :) Unfortunately, none of the proposed solutions really applies to the problem I have (That's however entirely my fault, I should have made things a bit clearer.). The workarounds (except for one) concentrate on making a link caused by a literal invalid address to become a valid link. However, what I like to achieve is some sort of escaping that prevents org-mode from generating a link at all (especially for HTML exporting). Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> wrote: > You can write: > > 1. [[ ][http://gateway.example.org]] > ^^^ please note the space here > when converted it should refer to > http://your-server/yourfile# Works, but still creates a link. > 2. use valid addresses ;-) Unfortunately, this isn't an option. Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote: > a dirty hackish aproach: > > (defun sr-no-link (href) > "Links, that are no links" > "#") > > (setq org-link-abbrev-alist > '(("man" . "http://localhost/devel/man.php?q=man&what=%s") > ;; ... many more ... > ("dummy" . sr-no-link)) > > [[dummy:][http://gateway.example.org]] > > It's still displayed as link then, but the browsers do nothing ;-) Goes in the same direction: a link is still created. Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote: > You can customize the variable org-activate-links and remove "plain" > from the list. This would work (I guess), but is AFAIK to be set globally, thus resulting in the loss of all other plain text links. What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, like \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on plain text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like =\http:...\=). Ulf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 13:05 ` Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-17 15:57 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 2009-02-18 7:51 ` Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-17 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-17 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann --- Mar 17/2/09, Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> ha scritto: > What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape > character/special markup that would prevent creating links > at all, like > \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use > other markups on plain > text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not > possible (like > =\http:...\=). what about post processing your HTML file with an /ad hoc/ function (called e.g. my-replace-esc-hlink [1])? In your file.org you may write \http://gateway.org that is exported as: \<a href="http://gateway.org">http://gateway.org</a> then open your html buffer and M-x my-replace-esc-hlink to cancel the "\<a href="http://gateway.org">" string HTH Giovanni [1] (defun my-replace-esc-hlink () "In a HTML file, replace escaped http links" (interactive) (goto-char (point-min)) (while (< (point) (point-max)) (re-search-forward "\\\\<a href=" nil nil ) (let (x1 x2) (progn (re-search-backward "<") (delete-char -1) (setq x1 (point)) ; start (re-search-forward ">") ;end (setq x2 (point)) (delete-region x1 x2) ) ) ) ) Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 15:57 ` Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-18 7:51 ` Ulf Stegemann 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-18 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi Giovanni, Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> wrote: > --- Mar 17/2/09, Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> ha scritto: >> What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape >> character/special markup that would prevent creating links >> at all, like >> \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use >> other markups on plain >> text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not >> possible (like >> =\http:...\=). > > what about post processing your HTML file with > an /ad hoc/ function (called e.g. my-replace-esc-hlink [1])? > > In your file.org you may write \http://gateway.orgthat is exported as: > \<a href="http://gateway.org">http://gateway.org</a> > > then open your html buffer and > > M-x my-replace-esc-hlink thanks for the idea. I was also thinking about using a postprocessing, maybe by using the completion-function when publishing. Should nothing else work, I will probably come back to this. Ulf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 13:05 ` Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-17 15:57 ` Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-17 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-02-18 7:58 ` Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-18 8:07 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-02-17 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: > Thank you for all the quick responses :) > > Unfortunately, none of the proposed solutions really applies to the > problem I have (That's however entirely my fault, I should have made > things a bit clearer.). > > The workarounds (except for one) concentrate on making a link caused > by a > literal invalid address to become a valid link. However, what I like > to > achieve is some sort of escaping that prevents org-mode from > generating > a link at all (especially for HTML exporting). > > Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> wrote: > >> You can write: >> >> 1. [[ ][http://gateway.example.org]] >> ^^^ please note the space here >> when converted it should refer to >> http://your-server/yourfile# > > Works, but still creates a link. > >> 2. use valid addresses ;-) > > Unfortunately, this isn't an option. > > > Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote: > >> a dirty hackish aproach: >> >> (defun sr-no-link (href) >> "Links, that are no links" >> "#") >> >> (setq org-link-abbrev-alist >> '(("man" . "http://localhost/devel/man.php?q=man&what= >> %s") >> ;; ... many more ... >> ("dummy" . sr-no-link)) >> >> [[dummy:][http://gateway.example.org]] >> >> It's still displayed as link then, but the browsers do nothing ;-) > > Goes in the same direction: a link is still created. > > > Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote: > >> You can customize the variable org-activate-links and remove "plain" >> from the list. > > This would work (I guess), but is AFAIK to be set globally, thus > resulting in the loss of all other plain text links. > > What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape > character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, > like > \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on plain > text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like > =\http:...\=). Indeed, something like =http://a.com= should work, this is a bug. I have just fixed it. Using "=" does have a specified markup, but you can change it or add a new markup by customizing `org-emphasis-alist'. For example, you could make it look like this: (("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") ("/" italic "<i>" "</i>") ("_" underline "<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">" "</ span>") ("=" org-code "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) ("~" org-verbatim "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) (";" org-verbatim "<i>" "</i>" verbatim)) where I have added the last line, so that ;http://google.com; will be interpreted verbatim, and typeset in italic. HTH - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-02-18 7:58 ` Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-18 12:29 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-02-18 8:07 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-18 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Dear Carsten, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote: > On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: > >> What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape >> character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, like >> \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on plain >> text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like >> =\http:...\=). > > Indeed, something like =http://a.com= should work, this is a bug. > I have just fixed it. great ... but unfortunately it's not working here. Whenever I try to export an org file to HTML now, I get 'org-export-normalize-links: Invalid function: org-if-unprotected-at' (with Emacs 23 and Org Mode versions as of this morning). This also happens with emacs -Q and a plain `org-install'. Ulf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-18 7:58 ` Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-18 12:29 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-02-18 12:51 ` Ulf Stegemann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-02-18 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: > Dear Carsten, > > Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote: > >> On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >> >>> What I was originally looking for was some sort of escape >>> character/special markup that would prevent creating links at all, >>> like >>> \http://...\ . This would also allow us to use other markups on >>> plain >>> text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not possible (like >>> =\http:...\=). >> >> Indeed, something like =http://a.com= should work, this is a bug. >> I have just fixed it. > > great ... but unfortunately it's not working here. Whenever I try to > export an org file to HTML now, I get 'org-export-normalize-links: > Invalid function: org-if-unprotected-at' (with Emacs 23 and Org Mode > versions as of this morning). This also happens with emacs -Q and a > plain `org-install'. This is defined in org-macs.el. http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git?a=commitdiff;h=538a536d0da678a753f4e5db17b2e13c6fb1876b Something must have gone wrong when you updated. try removing all .elc files, maybe recompile. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-18 12:29 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-02-18 12:51 ` Ulf Stegemann 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-18 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote: > On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: > >> >> great ... but unfortunately it's not working here. Whenever I try to >> export an org file to HTML now, I get 'org-export-normalize-links: >> Invalid function: org-if-unprotected-at' (with Emacs 23 and Org Mode >> versions as of this morning). This also happens with emacs -Q and a >> plain `org-install'. > > This is defined in org-macs.el. > > http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git?a=commitdiff;h=538a536d0da678a753f4e5db17b2e13c6fb1876b > > Something must have gone wrong when you updated. try removing > all .elc files, maybe recompile. You are right, it's there and after re-installing org-mode it works like a charm. I guess, somehow org-macs.el failed to re-compile in the first place but I really have no idea how this happened. Anyway, this perfectly solves my problem. Thanks you very much :) Ulf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 21:27 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-02-18 7:58 ` Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-02-18 8:07 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-18 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ulf Stegemann, Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode --- Mar 17/2/09, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> ha scritto: > > text links, something that - AFAIK - is currently not > possible (like =\http:...\=). > > Indeed, something like =http://a.com= should work, this is > a bug. > I have just fixed it. here Org-mode version 6.22b GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON also +http://a.com+ is exported as a link whereas +a.com+ is exported as strikethrough text. is it the same bug or another? Giovanni Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail..yahoo.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 11:44 Suppress linkification of external links possible? Ulf Stegemann 2009-02-17 12:20 ` Matthew Lundin 2009-02-17 12:21 ` Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-02-17 12:36 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-02-17 12:42 ` Sebastian Rose 3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-02-17 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Ulf, a dirty hackish aproach: (defun sr-no-link (href) "Links, that are no links" "#") (setq org-link-abbrev-alist '(("man" . "http://localhost/devel/man.php?q=man&what=%s") ;; ... many more ... ("dummy" . sr-no-link)) [[dummy:][http://gateway.example.org]] It's still displayed as link then, but the browsers do nothing ;-) Regards, Sebastian Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> writes: > Hi all, > > just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the automagical > linkification of external links? I have a document here for tutorial > purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like > 'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of those addresses is rather > disturbing. > > Ulf > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Suppress linkification of external links possible? 2009-02-17 11:44 Suppress linkification of external links possible? Ulf Stegemann ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2009-02-17 12:36 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-02-17 12:42 ` Sebastian Rose 3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-02-17 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Haha, this works too: [[#][http://test.org]] :) Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de> writes: > Hi all, > > just a quick question: Is it possible to suppress the automagical > linkification of external links? I have a document here for tutorial > purposes which is cluttered with invalid addresses like > 'http://gateway.example.org'. Linkification of those addresses is rather > disturbing. > > Ulf > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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