From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jose Robins Subject: Re: org mode columns don't work on xemacs 21 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:50:29 -0700 Message-ID: <47E6B485.8020907@yahoo.com> References: <160219.48418.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2BA1C7FD-52FA-414B-A5A1-74A3CA5ADFD1@science.uva.nl> Reply-To: wulfhomme13-rook@yahoo.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0679468407==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdWCx-0003P2-Rt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:50:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdWCw-0003OG-0W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:50:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdWCv-0003O9-L1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:50:17 -0400 Received: from n56.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.52]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JdWCv-0004qj-0p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:50:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2BA1C7FD-52FA-414B-A5A1-74A3CA5ADFD1@science.uva.nl> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0679468407== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080805070301090108070507" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080805070301090108070507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, this is a momentous day for me. I've been a hard core xemacs user for the last 12 years. And I've finally decided to switch over to emacs. I'll miss the nicer look and more streamlined and clean cut interface of xemacs. But after the release of emacs 22 and things like column support and such in org-mode which is available only in emacs have convinced me that the tradeoffs in sticking with xemacs was just not worth it... Even other packages are always better supported in emacs .... Ah well, xemacs I'll miss some of your features ! but auf wiedersehen, it's time to say goodbye to you... Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Jose Robins wrote: >> I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I try to use the column >> features in org -mode, I get a message that emacs 22 is needed for >> this to work. >> Question: >> - Is there any patch or something that I can apply to xemacs 21.4 for >> this work? > > No. > >> >> - What specific feature in emacs 22 helps this to work? > > Column view uses overlays, adn the differences in the overlay/extent > implementation would require > a lot of work making it compatible. I do not have the time to work > this out, so column view is not supported under XEmacs and likely > never will. > > - Carsten > --------------080805070301090108070507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, this is a momentous day for me. I've been a hard core xemacs user for the last 12 years. And I've finally decided to switch over to  emacs. I'll miss the nicer look and more streamlined and clean cut interface of xemacs. But after the release of emacs 22 and things like column support and such in org-mode which is available only in emacs have convinced me that the tradeoffs in sticking with xemacs was just not worth it... Even other packages are always better supported in emacs ... Ah well, xemacs I'll miss some of your features ! but auf wiedersehen, it's time to say goodbye to you...

Jose

Carsten Dominik wrote:

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Jose Robins wrote:
I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I try to use the column features in org -mode, I get a message that emacs 22 is needed for this to work. 
Question:
- Is there any patch or something that I can apply to xemacs 21.4 for this work?

No.


- What specific feature in emacs 22 helps this to work? 

Column view uses overlays, adn the differences in the overlay/extent implementation would require
a lot of work making it compatible.  I do not have the time to work this out, so column view is not supported under XEmacs and likely never will.

- Carsten

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