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Hello everyone!

I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry with C-u
C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would be really nice
to be able to call org-refile after the text is inserted on it's default
place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code, since that
is done via the remember command.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Hugo

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Hello everyone!<br><br>I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is inserted on it&#39;s default place (mine is the Tasks tree on 
<a href="http://todo.org">todo.org</a>)<br>Now, I couldn&#39;t find a way to insert this nicely into the code, since that is done via the remember command.<br>Any ideas?<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br>Hugo<br><br><br>

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Hi again...
i took a second look and adding something like this:

(when org-remember-then-refile
          (org-refile))

on the end of the function org-remember-handler did the trick.
It's not as nice as it could be though, because you get a *Remember* buffer
opened until you refile.

Cheers,
Hugo

On Jan 7, 2008 1:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt <hugows@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry with
> C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would be really
> nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is inserted on it's
> default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code, since that
> is done via the remember command.
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Hugo
>
>
>

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Hi again...<br>i took a second look and adding something like this:<br><br>(when org-remember-then-refile<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; (org-refile))<br><br>on the end of the function org-remember-handler did the trick.<br>It&#39;s not as nice as it could be though, because you get a *Remember* buffer opened until you refile.
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Hugo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 7, 2008 1:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt &lt;<a href="mailto:hugows@gmail.com">hugows@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello everyone!<br><br>I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is inserted on it&#39;s default place (mine is the Tasks tree on 
<a href="http://todo.org" target="_blank">todo.org</a>)<br>Now, I couldn&#39;t find a way to insert this nicely into the code, since that is done via the remember command.<br>Any ideas?<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br><font color="#888888">
Hugo<br><br><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry  
> with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would  
> be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is  
> inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code,  
> since that is done via the remember command.
> Any ideas?


Hi Hugo,


great idea.  We could even (optionally) replace the storing interface  
with the refile interface, so that C-c C-c would do a direct filing  
and C-u C-c C-c would give you the refile interface to determine a  
location.  Much faster than the rog-goto interface that is being used  
now.

Tanks.

- Carsten


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everyone!<br><br>I know Remember allows one to select where we want to =
file an entry with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile =
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the text is inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on <a =
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even (optionally) replace the storing interface with the refile =
interface, so that C-c C-c would do a direct filing and C-u C-c C-c =
would give you the refile interface to determine a location. &nbsp;Much =
faster than the rog-goto interface that is being used now.</div><div><br =
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This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.

- Carsten

On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry  
> with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would  
> be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is  
> inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code,  
> since that is done via the remember command.
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Hugo
>
>


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Can't wait!
Thank you very much for all the work on org-mode.
-Hugo

On Jan 18, 2008 5:47 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>
> - Carsten
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry with C-u
> C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would be really nice
> to be able to call org-refile after the text is inserted on it's default
> place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code, since that
> is done via the remember command.
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Hugo
>
>
>
>

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Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>
> - Carsten

Hi.

Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and minibuffer
with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously?

Steve

> On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry
>> with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would
>> be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is
>> inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
>> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code,
>> since that is done via the remember command.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Hugo

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On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>>
>> - Carsten
>
> Hi.
>
> Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and minibuffer
> with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously?

Could you please be more specific?

Thanks.

- Carsten

>
>
> Steve
>
>> On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry
>>> with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would
>>> be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is
>>> inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
>>> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code,
>>> since that is done via the remember command.
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Hugo
>
>
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Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:
>
>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and minibuffer
>> with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously?
>
> Could you please be more specific?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Carsten

Maybe. :-)

Currently, C-u C-c C-c in remember uses this "Select a destination
location for the note" mode where you navigate the org tree in the
usual way and then RET to select a headline.

On the other hand, org-refile uses the minibuffer and you type a
headline, with completion and history.

So recently I've been thinking it should be possible (though only
arguably desirable) to allow both of these modes to be active at once,
so movement commands would navigate the tree and typing commands would
append to the minibuffer.

There are key conflicts that need to be worked out, but I think it
could be done.  For one example, TAB could do completion if there is
text in the minibuffer, and tree navigation otherwise.

Steve

>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry
>>>> with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would
>>>> be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is
>>>> inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org)
>>>> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code,
>>>> since that is done via the remember command.
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Hugo

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On Jan 18, 2008 10:19 PM, Steven Lumos <steven@lumos.us> wrote:

>>> Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and
>>> minibuffer with completion methods so that both are available
>>> simultaneously?

I haven't made up my mind about org-refile yet, but I'd like to speak
in defense of org-goto.  In my setup, when you start typing in
org-goto, it automatically enters the isearch mode that searches only
headlines, which is very useful for refiling and kind of achieves what
you are asking for.  This requires some additional elisp code; I can
repost it if somebody is interested.

As for completion, both org-refile and org-goto should work with
icicles but I haven't tried it extensively yet (icicles provides
general-purpose extensive completion support for emacs).  My main
point is that I'd rather vote for making org-mode work well with
otherspecialized modes (eg icicles) than for reimplementing the
features.

Thanks,
Piotr

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On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and  
>>> minibuffer
>>> with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously?
>>
>> Could you please be more specific?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Carsten
>
> Maybe. :-)
>
> Currently, C-u C-c C-c in remember uses this "Select a destination
> location for the note" mode where you navigate the org tree in the
> usual way and then RET to select a headline.
>
> On the other hand, org-refile uses the minibuffer and you type a
> headline, with completion and history.
>
> So recently I've been thinking it should be possible (though only
> arguably desirable) to allow both of these modes to be active at once,
> so movement commands would navigate the tree and typing commands would
> append to the minibuffer.
>
> There are key conflicts that need to be worked out, but I think it
> could be done.  For one example, TAB could do completion if there is
> text in the minibuffer, and tree navigation otherwise.

Hmm, this sound like over-complx to me.  I would use the interface
that makes sense most of the time and then move by hand in the
remaining cases.  Or do you think tat the interface you want
is dependent on the template you are using?

- Carsten

>
>
> Steve
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an  
>>>>> entry
>>>>> with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it  
>>>>> would
>>>>> be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is
>>>>> inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on  
>>>>> todo.org)
>>>>> Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code,
>>>>> since that is done via the remember command.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> Hugo
>
>
>
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On 2008-01-20 14:31 +0000, Piotr Zielinski wrote:
> As for completion, both org-refile and org-goto should work with
> icicles but I haven't tried it extensively yet (icicles provides
> general-purpose extensive completion support for emacs).  My main
> point is that I'd rather vote for making org-mode work well with
> otherspecialized modes (eg icicles) than for reimplementing the
> features.

But the problem with icicles is that it might never be included in
Emacs.

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I use ido all day, and I find ido-completing-read much nicer/cooler
than the default. If anyone wants to try, just change the sexp
(completing-read ...) inside org-refile for something like:

(if (fboundp 'ido-completing-read)
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	 (completing-read "Refile to: " tbl nil t nil 'org-refile-history))

... and the good thing is that ido comes with emacs22.

Cheers,
Hugo

On Jan 20, 2008 12:44 PM, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-01-20 14:31 +0000, Piotr Zielinski wrote:
> > As for completion, both org-refile and org-goto should work with
> > icicles but I haven't tried it extensively yet (icicles provides
> > general-purpose extensive completion support for emacs).  My main
> > point is that I'd rather vote for making org-mode work well with
> > otherspecialized modes (eg icicles) than for reimplementing the
> > features.
>
> But the problem with icicles is that it might never be included in
> Emacs.
>
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Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

> On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:
>
>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:
>>>
>>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and
>>>> minibuffer
>>>> with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously?
>>>
>>> Could you please be more specific?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>
>> Maybe. :-)
>>
>> Currently, C-u C-c C-c in remember uses this "Select a destination
>> location for the note" mode where you navigate the org tree in the
>> usual way and then RET to select a headline.
>>
>> On the other hand, org-refile uses the minibuffer and you type a
>> headline, with completion and history.
>>
>> So recently I've been thinking it should be possible (though only
>> arguably desirable) to allow both of these modes to be active at once,
>> so movement commands would navigate the tree and typing commands would
>> append to the minibuffer.
>>
>> There are key conflicts that need to be worked out, but I think it
>> could be done.  For one example, TAB could do completion if there is
>> text in the minibuffer, and tree navigation otherwise.
>
> Hmm, this sound like over-complx to me.  I would use the interface
> that makes sense most of the time and then move by hand in the
> remaining cases.  Or do you think tat the interface you want
> is dependent on the template you are using?
>
> - Carsten

That could be.  I'm still very much figuring out what the interface
between my brain and org looks like, and not currently using any of
the established planning styles.  I've only been using the agenda for
about half as long as I've been using org for example.

>From my perspective, I saw two methods to do exactly the same thing(*),
which led to thinking about the advantages of each, which led to
thinking why not just merge them and have the advantages of both.

(*) Maybe this assumption was wrong?

Steve

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On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:21 AM, Steven Lumos wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Steven Lumos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> This will be in 5.19.  Thanks for the proposal!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and
>>>>> minibuffer
>>>>> with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously?
>>>>
>>>> Could you please be more specific?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>> Maybe. :-)
>>>
>>> Currently, C-u C-c C-c in remember uses this "Select a destination
>>> location for the note" mode where you navigate the org tree in the
>>> usual way and then RET to select a headline.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, org-refile uses the minibuffer and you type a
>>> headline, with completion and history.
>>>
>>> So recently I've been thinking it should be possible (though only
>>> arguably desirable) to allow both of these modes to be active at  
>>> once,
>>> so movement commands would navigate the tree and typing commands  
>>> would
>>> append to the minibuffer.
>>>
>>> There are key conflicts that need to be worked out, but I think it
>>> could be done.  For one example, TAB could do completion if there is
>>> text in the minibuffer, and tree navigation otherwise.
>>
>> Hmm, this sound like over-complx to me.  I would use the interface
>> that makes sense most of the time and then move by hand in the
>> remaining cases.  Or do you think tat the interface you want
>> is dependent on the template you are using?
>>
>> - Carsten
>
> That could be.  I'm still very much figuring out what the interface
> between my brain and org looks like, and not currently using any of
> the established planning styles.  I've only been using the agenda for
> about half as long as I've been using org for example.
>
>> From my perspective, I saw two methods to do exactly the same  
>> thing(*),
> which led to thinking about the advantages of each, which led to
> thinking why not just merge them and have the advantages of both.

yes, they do the exact same thing in the way that they achieve the  
same, but
in different ways.  However, what you ask for is difficult to program  
and
also (IMO) confusing.  I am dropping it for now.  If you want to switch
between the two interfaces, just define a command that toggles the
corresponding variable.  Then you can switch just before finishing  
remember
with C-c C-c.

- Carsten
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headline.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On the other hand, org-refile =
uses the minibuffer and you type =
a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">headline, with completion and =
history.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">So recently I've been thinking =
it should be possible (though =
only<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">arguably desirable) to allow both of these modes to be =
active at once,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">so movement commands would =
navigate the tree and typing commands =
would<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">append to the =
minibuffer.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">There are key conflicts that =
need to be worked out, but I think =
it<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">could be done. &nbsp;For one example, TAB could do =
completion if there is<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">text in the minibuffer, and tree =
navigation otherwise.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hmm, this sound =
like over-complx to me. &nbsp;I would use the =
interface<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">that makes sense =
most of the time and then move by hand in =
the<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">remaining cases. &nbsp;Or =
do you think tat the interface you want<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">is dependent on the template you are =
using?<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">- =
Carsten<br></blockquote><br>That could be. &nbsp;I'm still very much =
figuring out what the interface<br>between my brain and org looks like, =
and not currently using any of<br>the established planning styles. =
&nbsp;I've only been using the agenda for<br>about half as long as I've =
been using org for example.<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">=46rom my =
perspective, I saw two methods to do exactly the same =
thing(*),<br></blockquote>which led to thinking about the advantages of =
each, which led to<br>thinking why not just merge them and have the =
advantages of both.</blockquote><div><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>yes, they do the exact =
same thing in the way that they achieve the same, but</div><div>in =
different ways. &nbsp;However, what you ask for is difficult to program =
and</div><div>also (IMO) confusing. &nbsp;I am dropping it for now. =
&nbsp;If you want to switch</div><div>between the two interfaces, just =
define a command that toggles the</div><div>corresponding variable. =
&nbsp;Then you can switch just before finishing remember</div><div>with =
C-c C-c.</div><div><br></div>- Carsten</div></body></html>=

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