From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean-Marie Gaillourdet Subject: Re: how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:18:50 +0200 Message-ID: <3F21BB56-EF9C-4D66-87E3-B090C145A206@gaillourdet.net> References: <87lj7kapzq.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> <4C801DFC.8030700@christianmoe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33612 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P600E-00063v-Sw for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:00:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P5xU5-0002dm-Gg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:18:54 -0400 Received: from mailgw1.uni-kl.de ([131.246.120.220]:45452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P5xU5-0002dP-8H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:18:53 -0400 Received: from [IPv6:2001:638:208:340e:5ab0:35ff:fefb:541b] ([IPv6:2001:638:208:340e:5ab0:35ff:fefb:541b]) by mailgw1.uni-kl.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o9D9IoKS016004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:18:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode List Hi,=20 sorry to bring up this old thread, but there rather are rather new = developments at Zotero which might interesting to people here. See = below. On 03.09.2010, at 22:12, Scot Becker wrote: > Another Zotero + org user here. Right now I do what Christian does: = export Zotero to slightly tweaked BibTeX, and insert with RefTeX's = amazingly cool reference-insertion interface (another genius piece of = work by Carsten). I can think of two profitable ways to make inserting = references from one's Zotero database into org-mode notes better, and = one further way that org-mode could be more tightly linked with Zotero. >=20 > 1) A utility (presumably part firefox plugin) which keeps a BibTeX = file in sync with one of Zotero's collections. That way you don't have = to do a full manual export of your Zotero collection every time you add = or change something. RefTeX provides the citation insertion interface. = Something similar this to exists for LyX. It doesn't sync a whole Z. = collection, but creates a .bib file with the items you actually cite in = your document. The author (an Emacs user) even considered generalizing = it for use without LyX runing, i.e. for Emacs, but didn't find enough = steam (after all, he uses LyX). (I also know that Mendeley can be made = to auto-import from Zotero and to auto-export to BibTeX, but Mendeley's = BibTeX export is not flexible.) >=20 Zotero.org announced a new desktop application which will use a public = available read/write api to the Zotero service: > With full read/write access to bibliographic data, attached files like = PDFs,=20 > and the citation formatting engine, developers will be able to = integrate a full > range of Zotero features into their own web, mobile, and desktop = applications, > and users will be able to take advantage of this functionality at = zotero.org. =09 See http://www.zotero.org/blog/zoteros-next-big-step/ for more details. This should make it possible to use an official api to implement the use = case described above. > 2) a org-mode-specific plain-text citation mechanism, analogous to = BibTeX, but useful for both LaTeX and non-LaTeX exports. It would = presumably have a CSL backend, and work the way that citeproc-hs works = for pandoc. Presumably it could also use a RefTeX-like interface for = citation insertion. =20 >=20 > 3) Easier ways to take reading notes (in org) on items in the Zotero = database, with two way linking. (Thanks already for the tips in this = thread.) Regards, Jean=