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* org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
@ 2016-08-20 18:45 Rob Duncan
  2016-08-20 18:56 ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rob Duncan @ 2016-08-20 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It used to work…

When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:

eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters

Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?

Thanks,

Rob.

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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-08-20 18:45 org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version Rob Duncan
@ 2016-08-20 18:56 ` John Kitchin
  2016-08-20 20:57   ` Rob Duncan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-08-20 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Duncan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

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that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on ELPA
somehow?

John

-----------------------------------
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu


On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com> wrote:

> I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no
> longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It used
> to work…
>
> When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:
>
> eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters
>
> Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob.

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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-08-20 18:56 ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-08-20 20:57   ` Rob Duncan
  2016-08-24  3:22     ` Anthony Lander
  2016-08-26  1:15     ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rob Duncan @ 2016-08-20 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

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Hi John,

My org is claiming to be version 8.3.5:

Org-mode version 8.3.5 (8.3.5-elpa @ /Users/rduncan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160815/)

Rob.

On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:

that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on ELPA somehow?

John

-----------------------------------
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu<http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/>


On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com<mailto:rduncan@tesla.com>> wrote:
I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It used to work…

When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:

eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters

Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?

Thanks,

Rob.



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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-08-20 20:57   ` Rob Duncan
@ 2016-08-24  3:22     ` Anthony Lander
  2016-08-26  1:15     ` John Kitchin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Lander @ 2016-08-24  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Duncan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Kitchin

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Hi Rob,

Not sure what's going on. On a related note, I noticed that the outlook
code is tied to the 2011 version. I'm going to prepare a patch for that and
submit it.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> My org is claiming to be version 8.3.5:
>
> Org-mode version 8.3.5 (8.3.5-elpa @ /Users/rduncan/.emacs.d/elpa/
> org-20160815/)
>
> Rob.
>
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on ELPA
> somehow?
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com> wrote:
>
>> I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no
>> longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It used
>> to work…
>>
>> When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:
>>
>> eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters
>>
>> Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob.
>
>
>
>

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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-08-20 20:57   ` Rob Duncan
  2016-08-24  3:22     ` Anthony Lander
@ 2016-08-26  1:15     ` John Kitchin
  2016-08-26  1:31       ` Rob Duncan
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-08-26  1:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Duncan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

I haven't been able to reproduce this in org-plus-contrib-20160822.

Rob Duncan writes:

> Hi John,
>
> My org is claiming to be version 8.3.5:
>
> Org-mode version 8.3.5 (8.3.5-elpa @ /Users/rduncan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160815/)
>
> Rob.
>
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>
> that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on ELPA somehow?
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu<http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com<mailto:rduncan@tesla.com>> wrote:
> I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It used to work…
>
> When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:
>
> eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters
>
> Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob.


-- 
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-08-26  1:15     ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-08-26  1:31       ` Rob Duncan
  2016-09-02  9:34         ` Heikki Lehvaslaiho
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rob Duncan @ 2016-08-26  1:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Hi John,

I deleted my existing packages and installed org-plus-contrib-20160822 and everything works again.

Thanks very much!

Rob.

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:15 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> I haven't been able to reproduce this in org-plus-contrib-20160822.
> 
> Rob Duncan writes:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> My org is claiming to be version 8.3.5:
>> 
>> Org-mode version 8.3.5 (8.3.5-elpa @ /Users/rduncan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160815/)
>> 
>> Rob.
>> 
>> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on ELPA somehow?
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -----------------------------------
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu<http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/>
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com<mailto:rduncan@tesla.com>> wrote:
>> I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It used to work…
>> 
>> When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:
>> 
>> eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters
>> 
>> Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Rob.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu


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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-08-26  1:31       ` Rob Duncan
@ 2016-09-02  9:34         ` Heikki Lehvaslaiho
  2016-09-11 18:55           ` Richard Kim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Heikki Lehvaslaiho @ 2016-09-02  9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Duncan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Kitchin

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I've been experiencing similar problems with increasing annoyance level for
over a month. Thanks to these comments I think I got to the bottom of it!

The MELPA package org-mac-link (latest is org-mac-link-20160808.220) has
clearly continued being updated with new code that include calls to
org-link-set-parameters. The org-mac-link.el in package org-plus-contrib
has the code that works with org v8. Everyone who has been using MELPA,
especially with use-package, to load org-mac-link.el has not been using the
code in org-plus-contrib.

I removed the downloaded org-mac-link package files and the corresponding
depends-on line from my Cask file, and reverted to old require syntax to
load org-mac-link . Problem solved.


     -Heikki

Heikki Lehväslaiho - skype:heikki_lehvaslaiho cell: +358 40 850 6640
http://about.me/heikki

On 26 August 2016 at 04:31, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> I deleted my existing packages and installed org-plus-contrib-20160822
and everything works again.
>
> Thanks very much!
>
> Rob.
>
> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:15 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:
> >
> > I haven't been able to reproduce this in org-plus-contrib-20160822.
> >
> > Rob Duncan writes:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> My org is claiming to be version 8.3.5:
> >>
> >> Org-mode version 8.3.5 (8.3.5-elpa @
/Users/rduncan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160815/)
> >>
> >> Rob.
> >>
> >> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu
<mailto:jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
> >>
> >> that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on
ELPA somehow?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------
> >> Professor John Kitchin
> >> Doherty Hall A207F
> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
> >> Carnegie Mellon University
> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> >> 412-268-7803
> >> @johnkitchin
> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu<http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com<mailto:
rduncan@tesla.com>> wrote:
> >> I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m
no longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications.  It
used to work…
> >>
> >> When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:
> >>
> >> eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void:
org-link-set-parameters
> >>
> >> Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Rob.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Professor John Kitchin
> > Doherty Hall A207F
> > Department of Chemical Engineering
> > Carnegie Mellon University
> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> > 412-268-7803
> > @johnkitchin
> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>

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* Re: org-link-set-parameters missing in ELPA version
  2016-09-02  9:34         ` Heikki Lehvaslaiho
@ 2016-09-11 18:55           ` Richard Kim
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Richard Kim @ 2016-09-11 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

 
I added the following elisp code at the start of my ~/.emacs to deal
with this problem. My analysis of the problem is described in the
comments. In short the root cause seems to be loading built-in org.el
during initialization rather than org.el from either org-plus-contrib or
org add-on packages.  Symbols such as org-link-set-parameters are not
defined in built-in org.el of emacs 25. They are defined only in newer
versions of org package.

I use my own build of the following which is re-built once a week or two:
- emacs 25 from 'emacs-25' git branch
- org and org-plus-contribute packages from git source files
- spacemacs from 'develop' git branch

If I have erred in my analysis of the root cause, please let me know.
What I know is that before I started using the code below, I would get
emacs startup error every time after I removed all installed packages.
With this code, I no longer see any failure.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;; Bootstrap `org-plus-contrib' and/or `org' packages
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

;; The purpose of this section is to make sure that org-mode package(s) are
;; installed and setup early on so as to prevent built-in org-mode files from
;; getting loaded. The built-in org-mode commands are autoloaded so that none
;; of the built-in org files are actually loaded when emacs starts up. However
;; it is easy to get one or more org files to get loaded directly or indirectly
;; by using one or more org mode functions. Once that happens, then it is
;; nearly impossible to fix this. For example if built-in org.el gets loaded,
;; then subsequent (require 'org) will not reload org.el even if an org package
;; was installed which provided newer org.el! A workaround is to make sure that
;; the org package(s) are not only installed, but also activated (i.e.,
;; `load-path' setup) so that the first time (require 'org) is done, it will
;; cause the newer org.el to be loaded rather than the built in one.


;; Where to find packages to install from. If spacemacs is loaded, then it is
;; important that `package-archives' value here is the same as the one embedded
;; in spacemacs. Otherwise strange errors may pop up.
(if (file-directory-p "/u/me/public_html/elpa/elpa/")
    (custom-set-variables
     `(package-archives
       `(("my-elpa" . ,(expand-file-name "/u/me/public_html/elpa/elpa/"))
         ("my-orgmode" . ,(expand-file-name "/u/me/public_html/elpa/orgmode/")))))
  (custom-set-variables
   `(package-archives
     `(("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")
       ("orgmode" . "http://orgmode.org/elpa/"))))
  )

;; Where to install packages to.  Spacemacs honors this as of about Aug 2016.
(setq package-user-dir "/u/me/opt/elpa25/")

;; Do not activate all installed packages at the end of startup processing.
;; I activate packages as needed.
(setq package-enable-at-startup nil)

;; We must initialize packages before we can call `package-installed-p'.
;; However just do minimal setup (via 'no-activate optional argument), i.e., do
;; not activate any packages. Without `no-activate', all installed packages are
;; activated.
(unless (bound-and-true-p package--initialized)
  (package-initialize 'no-activate)
  (package-refresh-contents)

;; I use `use-package' to install and setup all packages except `use-pacakge'
;; itself. You can't use it if it is not already installed and activated. So
;; make sure that it is installed and setup using only built-in package.el
;; functions.
(if (package-installed-p 'use-package)
    (package-activate 'use-package) ; just activate if already installed
  (package-install 'use-package))

;; We *must* install `org-plus-contrib' or `org' package very early on so that
;; these shadow the built-in org-mode files. If this is not done early, and one
;; or more of the built-in org-mode files are loaded during emacs startup, then
;; failures may arise later on while installing `org-plus-contrib' or `org'
;; packages. Typical errors in such case are "void-function
;; org-link-set-parameters" or "void-function org-link-types". Such errors
;; started popping up with spacemacs around August 2016 when emacs is started
;; after removing all installed packages which forced installation of all
;; needed packages.
;;
;; The need to install this early on is the reason for all the setup done so far.
(use-package org-plus-contrib :ensure t :defer t)

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;; Setup spacemacs
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

(setq spacemacs-start-directory "/u/me/opt/spacemacs/")
(load-file (expand-file-name "init.el" spacemacs-start-directory))

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;; Setup my stuff
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

(load "/u/me/Private/elisp/init.el")


Heikki Lehvaslaiho <heikki.lehvaslaiho@gmail.com> writes:

> I've been experiencing similar problems with increasing annoyance
> level for over a month. Thanks to these comments I think I got to the
> bottom of it!
>
> The MELPA package org-mac-link (latest is org-mac-link-20160808.220)
> has clearly continued being updated with new code that include calls
> to org-link-set-parameters. The org-mac-link.el in package
> org-plus-contrib has the code that works with org v8. Everyone who has
> been using MELPA, especially with use-package, to load org-mac-link.el
> has not been using the code in org-plus-contrib.
>
> I removed the downloaded org-mac-link package files and the
> corresponding depends-on line from my Cask file, and reverted to old
> require syntax to load org-mac-link . Problem solved.
>
> -Heikki
>
> Heikki Lehväslaiho - skype:heikki_lehvaslaiho cell: +358 40 850 6640
> http://about.me/heikki
>
> On 26 August 2016 at 04:31, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I deleted my existing packages and installed org-plus-contrib-20160822 and everything works again.
>>
>> Thanks very much!
>>
>> Rob.
>>
>> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:15 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > I haven't been able to reproduce this in org-plus-contrib-20160822.
>> >
>> > Rob Duncan writes:
>> >
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> My org is claiming to be version 8.3.5:
>> >>
>> >> Org-mode version 8.3.5 (8.3.5-elpa @ /Users/rduncan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160815/)
>> >>
>> >> Rob.
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:56 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> that seems weird, I thought that should only be in org 9. Is that on ELPA somehow?
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------
>> >> Professor John Kitchin
>> >> Doherty Hall A207F
>> >> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> >> Carnegie Mellon University
>> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> >> 412-268-7803
>> >> @johnkitchin
>> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu<http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Rob Duncan <rduncan@tesla.com<mailto:rduncan@tesla.com>> wrote:
>> >> I just installed org-mac-link version 20160808.220 from ELPA and I’m no longer able to insert links from Mail.app and other applications. It used to work…
>> >>
>> >> When I try to manually load org-mac-link.el I get this error message:
>> >>
>> >> eval-buffer: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-link-set-parameters
>> >>
>> >> Did I mess up the install, or is the package broken somehow?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Rob.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Professor John Kitchin
>> > Doherty Hall A207F
>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>> > Carnegie Mellon University
>> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> > 412-268-7803
>> > @johnkitchin
>> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>

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