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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-TUID: brNPJKbDkd1e On 12/1/22 18:10, Tim Cross wrote: > > Max Nikulin writes: > >> On 29/11/2022 13:58, Bastien wrote: >>> Last but not least: thanks to Ihor his >>> truly amazing work and for being the de facto maintainer. >> >> I think, Ihor's role in this release is crucial. He spent a lot of time fixing bugs and >> reviewing patches, not to mention the org-fold framework to overcome performance >> limitation of overlays (the latter has been recently addressed in Emacs though). > > I agree. The amount of time and effort Ihor has put into org mode is > both crucial and hugely appreciated. > > One question I do have is with respect to the new folding code, the > changes in Emacs to improve overlay performance and the correct way > forward. > > On one hand, it was an immense amount of work for Ihor to implement a > better performing solution and something I'm sure those with large org > files will appreciate. However, on the other hand, I guess it also puts > a greater burden from a maintenance perspective on org maintainers as > org is now using its own unique approach to hiding/showing content > (folding). > > Has anyone done any comparisons between the new overlay implementation > in Emacs 29 and the new folding approach in org 9.6? Is there still > sufficient performance benefit with org's approach over using Emacs > overlays or do we need to seriously consider changing the default back > to native Emacs overlays? > Is this the cause for the behavior I described a few days ago in Bug org-cycke fails after "replace-string" Charlie Millar P.S. Sorry for the typo