outline-magic incompatible with org-mode

outline-magic incompatible with org-mode

[Thomas Baumann]

It took me a while to get the reason for this strange behaviour of TAB in
org-mode on my computer: 

TAB worked fine in folding and unfolding the headings, but failed
otherwise. C-i worked flawlessly in all situations.

The reason for loosing the context sensitive behaviour of TAB was a
concurring key-binding in outline-magic, which I still use in lengthy
documents.

In outline-magic TAB is bound to outline-cycle, whereas org-mode binds
<tab> to org-cycle. TAB and <tab> are different keys, therefore in
a standard setup most of the intuitive behaviour of org-mode gets lost.

Not a common situation but maybe one can patch outline-magic or
org-mode.

Greetings
Thomas

Re: outline-magic incompatible with org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

For those of you who don't know, outline-magic is an older package that 
adds visibility cycling and structure editing to outline-mode and 
outline-minor-mode.  All this stuff is already in org-mode.  I guess 
you are using to get cycling support in other modes?

outline-magic modifies the keymap of outline-mode.  Since org-mode is 
derived from outline-mode, it inherits all those keybindings, and then 
overwrites them where needed.

The problem here seems to be that org.el does not explicitly bind TAB 
to org-cycle.  The only binding for org-cycle currently is C-i.  If TAB 
is not bound otherwise, that binding gets passed through from C-i to 
TAB, but if there is an explicit binding for TAB, it takes precedence.

Could you try if it helps to add

    (define-key org-mode-map [(tab)] 'org-cycle)

somewhere near the end of org.el?

- Carsten

On Mar 13, 2006, at 8:20, Thomas Baumann wrote:

>
> It took me a while to get the reason for this strange behaviour of TAB 
> in
> org-mode on my computer:
>
> TAB worked fine in folding and unfolding the headings, but failed
> otherwise. C-i worked flawlessly in all situations.
>
> The reason for loosing the context sensitive behaviour of TAB was a
> concurring key-binding in outline-magic, which I still use in lengthy
> documents.
>
> In outline-magic TAB is bound to outline-cycle, whereas org-mode binds
> <tab> to org-cycle. TAB and <tab> are different keys, therefore in
> a standard setup most of the intuitive behaviour of org-mode gets lost.
>
> Not a common situation but maybe one can patch outline-magic or
> org-mode.
>
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
>
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>
>

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Carsten Dominik
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Universiteit van Amsterdam
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Re: outline-magic incompatible with org-mode

[Thomas Baumann]

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:

> 
> Could you try if it helps to add
> 
>    (define-key org-mode-map [(tab)] 'org-cycle)
> 
> somewhere near the end of org.el?
> 

added where the other tab bindings are defined, works for me.

Thanks
Thomas

Re: outline-magic incompatible with org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

OK, this will be part of the next version.

Thanks for the report.

- Carsten

On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:06, Thomas Baumann wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>> Could you try if it helps to add
>>
>>    (define-key org-mode-map [(tab)] 'org-cycle)
>>
>> somewhere near the end of org.el?
>>
>
> added where the other tab bindings are defined, works for me.
>
> Thanks
> Thomas
>
>

--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477