* Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend
@ 2013-09-18 4:38 Carsten Dominik
2013-09-24 12:13 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2013-09-18 4:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mode
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Hi,
I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT file format, and who would have time to become the responsible person for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently orphaned.
There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here:
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384
We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list. Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality?
Please write to me if you are interested.
Thank you.
- Carsten
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend 2013-09-18 4:38 Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend Carsten Dominik @ 2013-09-24 12:13 ` Carsten Dominik 2013-09-24 13:18 ` Christian Moe 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2013-09-24 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1226 bytes --] Hi eager Org mode contributors One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this task. I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks. - Carsten On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT file format, and who would have time to become the responsible person for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently orphaned. > > There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384 > > We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list. Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality? > > Please write to me if you are interested. > > Thank you. > > - Carsten [-- Attachment #2: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 455 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend 2013-09-24 12:13 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2013-09-24 13:18 ` Christian Moe 2013-09-24 13:36 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Christian Moe @ 2013-09-24 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mode Hi, I don't have the developer skillz. Otherwise I'd be happy to help out any way I can, e.g. tracking issues and requests, digging into ODT format, replicating bugs and testing patches on a more systematic basis. (The latter two assuming I can root out the setup/installation weirdness that seems to affect my local ODT export.) I see Jambunathan has placed his patches in the public domain under a GPL-compatible CC0 license. Other considerations aside, doesn't that mean they could be applied in Org? Yours, Christian Carsten Dominik writes: > Hi eager Org mode contributors > > One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this task. > I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks. > > - Carsten > > On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT file format, and who would have time to become the responsible person for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently orphaned. >> >> There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here: >> >> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384 >> >> We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list. Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality? >> >> Please write to me if you are interested. >> >> Thank you. >> >> - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend 2013-09-24 13:18 ` Christian Moe @ 2013-09-24 13:36 ` Carsten Dominik 2013-09-24 14:43 ` Feng Shu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2013-09-24 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christian Moe; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3234 bytes --] Hi Christian, On 24.9.2013, at 15:18, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't have the developer skillz. > > Otherwise I'd be happy to help out any way I can, e.g. tracking issues > and requests, digging into ODT format, replicating bugs and testing > patches on a more systematic basis. Thanks, this would be great. > > (The latter two assuming I can root out the setup/installation weirdness > that seems to affect my local ODT export.) > > I see Jambunathan has placed his patches in the public domain under a > GPL-compatible CC0 license. Other considerations aside, doesn't that > mean they could be applied in Org? Putting them under CC0 means that we could use them, and that Emacs could in principle use them as well. However, Emacs has made the *choice* to only include stuff for which they have the copyright assignment to the FSF. (Stefan does reiterate this in the thread following Jambunathans message). Since Org is distributed as part of Emacs, this also applies to us. I have looked at the patches. 1. Implement an alternative format for description lists. Description lists are, I think, already "supported" by the odt exporter, even though odt does not seem to support them natively. 2. As far as I can see, this mainly implements a simpler way to access attributes internally. It does not fix any bug I would know about. 3. Introduces some kind of new way to force page breaks. I don't see why we need it. 4. adds jabref support. Sounds interesting, but I don't know if anyone here uses it or would like to use it. So I don't think any of this is required at this moment. But it would be great if you could keep en eye out for mailing list requests and bug reports around this exporter and try to get things fixed when necessary. Thanks! - Carsten > > Yours, > Christian > > > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> Hi eager Org mode contributors >> >> One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this task. >> I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks. >> >> - Carsten >> >> On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT file format, and who would have time to become the responsible person for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently orphaned. >>> >>> There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here: >>> >>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384 >>> >>> We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list. Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality? >>> >>> Please write to me if you are interested. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> - Carsten > [-- Attachment #2: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 455 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend 2013-09-24 13:36 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2013-09-24 14:43 ` Feng Shu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Feng Shu @ 2013-09-24 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > Hi Christian, > > On 24.9.2013, at 15:18, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't have the developer skillz. >> >> Otherwise I'd be happy to help out any way I can, e.g. tracking issues >> and requests, digging into ODT format, replicating bugs and testing >> patches on a more systematic basis. > > Thanks, this would be great. > >> >> (The latter two assuming I can root out the setup/installation weirdness >> that seems to affect my local ODT export.) >> >> I see Jambunathan has placed his patches in the public domain under a >> GPL-compatible CC0 license. Other considerations aside, doesn't that >> mean they could be applied in Org? > > Putting them under CC0 means that we could use them, and that Emacs > could in principle use them as well. However, Emacs has made the *choice* > to only include stuff for which they have the copyright assignment to > the FSF. (Stefan does reiterate this in the thread following Jambunathans > message). Since Org is distributed as part of Emacs, this also applies > to us. > > I have looked at the patches. > > 1. Implement an alternative format for description lists. Description > lists are, I think, already "supported" by the odt exporter, even > though odt does not seem to support them natively. > 2. As far as I can see, this mainly implements a simpler way to access > attributes internally. It does not fix any bug I would know about. > 3. Introduces some kind of new way to force page breaks. I don't > see why we need it. > 4. adds jabref support. Sounds interesting, but I don't know if anyone > here uses it or would like to use it. I use this feature now. In my opinion, this is very cool. I use org-mode to write paper draft and export the draft to odf file instead of pdf file, the reason is that I can't develop a suitable latex style for our university... so ox-jabref.el + ox-odt.el become a easy approach. > > So I don't think any of this is required at this moment. But it would > be great if you could keep en eye out for mailing list requests and > bug reports around this exporter and try to get things fixed when necessary. > > Thanks! > > - Carsten > > >> >> Yours, >> Christian >> >> >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> >>> Hi eager Org mode contributors >>> >>> One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this task. >>> I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks. >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>> On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT >>>> file format, and who would have time to become the responsible >>>> person for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the >>>> original author (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently >>>> orphaned. >>>> >>>> There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published here: >>>> >>>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15384>>> >>>> We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as >>>> well) - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if >>>> there is functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. >>>> For the rest I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and >>>> Emacs bug reports for issues related to this backend and try to >>>> fix them, obviously with support from the mailing list. >>>> Also,maybe there are ideas for additional functionality? >>>> >>>> Please write to me if you are interested. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> - Carsten >> -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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