From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Wanted: Caretaker of the ODT backend Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:36:08 +0200 Message-ID: <2F5692AA-B782-4AAD-972A-48E62FE748AB@gmail.com> References: <5CA18982-214C-486C-8B94-0DDA99EC70A2@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_38B11723-05C7-4F15-A8C2-43A6BB319074"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52481) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOSmm-0002Wr-Iv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:36:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOSmh-0004Ry-QY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:36:16 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::236]:40948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOSmh-0004Rs-Fd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:36:11 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id o10so2524216eaj.27 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Christian Moe Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mode" --Apple-Mail=_38B11723-05C7-4F15-A8C2-43A6BB319074 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Christian, On 24.9.2013, at 15:18, Christian Moe wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I don't have the developer skillz. >=20 > Otherwise I'd be happy to help out any way I can, e.g. tracking issues > and requests, digging into ODT format, replicating bugs and testing > patches on a more systematic basis. Thanks, this would be great. >=20 > (The latter two assuming I can root out the setup/installation = weirdness > that seems to affect my local ODT export.) >=20 > I see Jambunathan has placed his patches in the public domain under a > GPL-compatible CC0 license. Other considerations aside, doesn't that > mean they could be applied in Org? Putting them under CC0 means that we could use them, and that Emacs could in principle use them as well. However, Emacs has made the = *choice* to only include stuff for which they have the copyright assignment to the FSF. (Stefan does reiterate this in the thread following = Jambunathans message). Since Org is distributed as part of Emacs, this also applies to us. I have looked at the patches. 1. Implement an alternative format for description lists. Description lists are, I think, already "supported" by the odt exporter, even though odt does not seem to support them natively. 2. As far as I can see, this mainly implements a simpler way to access attributes internally. It does not fix any bug I would know about. 3. Introduces some kind of new way to force page breaks. I don't see why we need it. 4. adds jabref support. Sounds interesting, but I don't know if anyone here uses it or would like to use it. So I don't think any of this is required at this moment. But it would be great if you could keep en eye out for mailing list requests and bug reports around this exporter and try to get things fixed when = necessary. Thanks! - Carsten >=20 > Yours, > Christian >=20 >=20 > Carsten Dominik writes: >=20 >> Hi eager Org mode contributors >>=20 >> One more try - it would be really nice to find a volunteer for this = task. >> I can do this myself - but it would take time away from other tasks. >>=20 >> - Carsten >>=20 >> On 18.9.2013, at 06:38, Carsten Dominik = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> I am looking for someone who knows about the internals of the ODT = file format, and who would have time to become the responsible person = for ox-odt.el. Since we cannot take patches from the original author = (Jambunathan) anymore, this module is currently orphaned. >>>=20 >>> There are a few recent patches Jambunathan has made and published = here: >>>=20 >>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D15384 >>>=20 >>> We cannot take them (due to FSF rules and for other reasons as well) = - but the new maintainer can take a look at them and see if there is = functionality or bug fixes we need and re-implment those. For the rest = I would hope that you can watch the mailing list and Emacs bug reports = for issues related to this backend and try to fix them, obviously with = support from the mailing list. Also,maybe there are ideas for = additional functionality? >>>=20 >>> Please write to me if you are interested. >>>=20 >>> Thank you. >>>=20 >>> - Carsten >=20 --Apple-Mail=_38B11723-05C7-4F15-A8C2-43A6BB319074 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSQZVIAAoJEO+gg/nAZuwMl5gH/ApCD+gwlBXS5VuUyIdibe8E Sy1DpZcFab+DqWQz8E2vIVACf8b6+hrM0WQbnPiE9dMftNAfYhvUbXdFIifSawQS qCma7u5Mv98l5SZjoGpFPRpZK6NAq/63P2Ph2Qrw3iiLs+s3RY4R0Ykv1AhukcIi dvQT9fZ4KiaG23hLgVQsDPgOyUAi7RAyIE5ec49P7YtNWXZu9De2p3lwGG6fdBuu QWb9aUZj/rCufHKiV+1YmqrB34V9wCKHuzt6Yecg6O0j3jYhh1q+T9QTiO+zCEK/ U8OK+oUhA36gzIXgqU/h1CvNAwmTHUGEFe2ci7dtkbl1TxJxvvk9rvNvDpRrTaw= =vmQo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_38B11723-05C7-4F15-A8C2-43A6BB319074--