From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Enriched/Org is a colorful Org Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: <262C4E11-6D4B-4033-A619-1702CC8D0F94@gmail.com> References: <87a9p79gnv.fsf@gmail.com> <20130410095450.GA31506@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <83a9p69x0c.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50740) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQ19q-0003Ze-Fa for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:58:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQ19p-0006OL-F5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:58:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83a9p69x0c.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 10.4.2013, at 18:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Carsten Dominik >> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:16:28 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>=20 >>=20 >> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali = wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> See "Side note" towards the end of this message >>>>=20 >>>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14157#8 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> This request is common enough; every time it comes up overlays are >>> proposed as a solution. It would be good if this is available even = as a >>> library outside of Org. >>=20 >> Yes, overlays are better. >=20 > I beg the Org developers to please be very careful when introducing > expensive display features such as overlays into Org. Org already > puts the Emacs display engine to its limits in many of its popular > features; Hi Eli, this is interesting input, I was not aware of this. Has this been = discussed before, can you point me to relevant threads, and what are the = symptoms of the display engine being at its limits? Regards - Carsten > adding overlays to this mess might be too much. >=20 > I don't know enough about Org to understand why overlays are being > considered instead of text properties, but feel free to describe the > issues (preferably on emacs-devel) and start a discussion about the > possible alternatives. >=20