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April 2021 um 09:24 Uhr -0400 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: > It can be that not only does the space get removed, but the note mark > is moved outside the period. > > So if you have ... > > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > ... that should end up like this: > > Some sentence with a concluding citation.[1] > > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it doesn't seem this is > documented. It obviously should be. > > And I don't remember if that convention is locale-specific; e.g. if > while that's the standard in English, it could be different in > France. As for German, the semantics are different. In Law discipline, in some journals (not all) both styles can be used within the very same document and have different meanings. That is, > This is an example sentence, with a half-sentence following.¹ means that the citation ¹ references the entire sentence, whereas > This is an example sentence, with a half-sentence following¹. means that it references only the part following the comma ("with a half-sentence following"). Normalising this into one uniform style would be a semantic error. Not all journals handle it like that, though. Some do prefer uniform look and glance over the semantic difference. -quintus -- Dipl.-Jur. M. Gülker | https://mg.guelker.eu | For security: Passau, Germany | kontakt@guelker.eu | () Avoid HTML e-mail European Union | PGP: see homepage | /\ http://asciiribbon.org