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Sometimes I do not find what I'm looking for > where I would expect it to be. Also, searching is convenient way to find > out if something *is not* in the manual. > > I'm used to reading and searching in a browser. Searching and saving are both effective use cases. > I agree that it's not efficient to download a whole manual but I guess > that's what caching is for? Anyway, I thought about switching to > accessing the manual offline but I haven't gotten to it yet. I disagree. With transparent gzip compression its a few hundred K, less than all the Javascript libraries that load when you open most popular websites. You are also less likely to reopen it repeatedly or reload it. Perhaps the main link can goto a sectioned manual, but I'd like to see a link to the one page manual preserved. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3