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X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.51 X-TUID: nmbcCSgGV27u ----- Forwarded message from Richard Stallman ----- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:09:19 -0400 From: Richard Stallman Subject: Keep Org mode submodules in Emacs, please! [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] [Resending to cater to prissy mailer] Redesigning Org mode so that its secondary features are more modular, and integrate better individually into Emacs, would be a big improvement. When the reorganization is finished, please keep all of the code inside Emacs. Each piece should be in Emacs core, or in GNU ELPA, whichever seems more convenient. Those are places we can refer to. Please do not move any of the code to MELPA, because we will not refer to it there. I am not on the emacs-orgmode list. Russell, if you get this directly but it does not come through the list, would you please forward it there? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3