From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Detlef Steuer Subject: Re: syncing my life (orgmode :)) to a mobile (android) device..cant find a holistic reliable way..how do you guys manage to do it? Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:48:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20151207134833.100f90be@gaia> References: <87mvtp3s4s.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58807) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5vDt-00039X-0l for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:48:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5vDo-0000bI-Q8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:48:56 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54863) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5vDo-0000b5-JC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:48:52 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a5vDm-0003Et-Pi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:48:50 +0100 Received: from gaia.unibw-hamburg.de ([139.11.181.103]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:48:50 +0100 Received: from detlef.steuer by gaia.unibw-hamburg.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:48:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mvtp3s4s.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: Xebar Saram Am Sat, 5 Dec 2015 14:08:19 +0000 schrieb Eric S Fraga : > On Saturday, 5 Dec 2015 at 09:10, Xebar Saram wrote: >=20 > [...] >=20 > > all this is great yet i travel alot to conferences and meeting and > > do rely on a mobile device (in my case a android nexus 6) in many > > situations. I check my emails on it as much as i do on my PC, look > > at upcoming and schedule appointments, look at timed TODOS, add new > > contacts i meet and collect info on the go (web links, food recipes > > etc). > > > > Out of all the things i do only email (via offlineimap and mu4e) > > seems to be able to Sync correctly. =20 >=20 > Yes, this is probably a valid summary of the current state of the art > re: org and Android devices. >=20 > > So my question is (sorry for the long intro :)) what do orgmode > > users (who also are heavy mobile users) do? do they give up on > > contacts and calendaring on the mobile? maintain 2 separate > > databases? what tools do people use to overcome this issue? > > > > I once had a nokia n900 which ran basically Debian linux, and thus > > emacs could be run naively , these days it seems like all are > > android devices. I still haven't found a gui friendly way to run > > emacs there. =20 >=20 > I have two different working environments, depending on which mobile > device I use: >=20 > Case 1: if I use an Android device (nexus 4 or 7), I rely on mobileorg > heavily to synchronise my calendar. I have mobileorg suck in any > events I create in Google calendar and export all org events to > Google. This works quite well. However, creating notes etc. on the > mobile device in this case is not ideal as mobileorg is not a full > implementation of org (and, to be fair, it wasn't intended to be). >=20 > Although there is an emacs distribution for Android, I've never really > managed to get it working satisfactorily, with or without a bluetooth > keyboard. Android is a crippled Linux unfortunately... (in my > opinion). >=20 > In the end, I primarily use my nexus devices as phones (really?) and > for facebook (as one must). >=20 > Case 2: this is my preferred mobile solution. I have an OpenPandora > palmtop computer [1] running the full Debian testing distribution with > Emacs and the org from git, not to mention gnus, LaTeX, Libreoffice, > Octave, ... The Pandora has WiFi and bluetooth but not 3/4G > connectivity. I use my phone to tether the Pandora to the 'net when I > need to connect outside a WiFi zone. In this case, the Pandora and my > other systems are fully synchronised using unison. Finally, the > Pandora has 2 full SD slots which allow me to walk around with 128 GB > of disk space. Well, there is hope for Android users, too: I bought an used ASUS TF 101 (but any such android tablet should do) especially to try out various ways to install a real Linux on this class of machines. With linuxdeploy I was able to install a complete Linux (TeX, R, emacs, git, rsync ...) on a *rooted* machine. Using a VNC viewer (bvnc in my case) I get a complete graphical environment. emacs works nicely in the terminal emulater session, too. Linux runs besides Android in a chroot and I`m quite happy with this setup.=20 On another *unrooted* machine (Galaxy Note something) I use gnuroot. Only got it working without X11, but did not try too hard, because solution 1 was working fine. According to the docs I=C2=B4m just too stupid to get a local X11-server working. Both machines have physical keyboards attached, but in tablet mode using HackersKeyboard emacs is usable, but obviously a keyboard is a Good Thing(tm) for emacs users. May be that helps someone Detlef >=20 > I bought my Pandora specifically because I wanted a full org mobile > experience! I am awaiting the release of the Pyra, the upgrade of the > Pandora, very eagerly indeed! >=20 > Oh, and the Pandora has a fantastic audio system :-) >=20 > Sorry if I have come across as an advert for the Pandora but I am > obviously a satisfied customer. >=20 > HTH, > eric >=20 >=20 > Footnotes:=20 > [1] https://boards.openpandora.org/pandora/pandoramain.html/ >=20