From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcin Borkowski Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:31:59 +0200 Message-ID: <20130928233159.56203f9f@aga-netbook> References: <52474101.7010904@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58433) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ27Y-0001E6-Jc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:32:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ27S-0003os-9f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:32:12 -0400 Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([2001:808:114:2::50]:52936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ27S-0003ob-25 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:32:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBED4AC5B for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:32:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xs9LI-Fyj4t8 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:32:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aga-netbook (99-52.echostar.pl [213.156.99.52]) by msg.wmi.amu.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFBF94AC43 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:32:01 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <52474101.7010904@verizon.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 16:50:09 Charles Millar napisa=C5=82(a): > On 9/28/2013 3:52 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > > Aloha Carsten, > > > snip > > First, I think that most statements about "what Org-mode is" are > > outdated. Many of them are quite good, but they represent the > > previous state of an evolving system and so fail to capture the > > full scope. To my mind, Org-mode is a "research programming > > interface" written by and for scientists who take very seriously > > certain core values of the scientific enterprise--reproducibility, > > open access, and open source (a partial list). > Strongly disagree with the sentiment. My undergraduate degree may > gave been Physics, but I work as a freelance paralegal. I use Org > Mode for project (file) planning, scheduling, drafting documents, > etc. Also, I believe that there are some very active participants on > this list who are not scientists and have made great contributions. +1. Although I'm also a scientist (mathematics), I used Org-mode /once/ for science, and it turned out that I felt very much constrained and quickly got back to LaTeX, where I felt much more comfortable. > > Its original focus on project planning has expanded with two > > amazing and fundamental contributions, Eric and Dan's mature Babel > > implementation and Nicolas' new export framework. > I use the LaTeX export to create pdf documents, such as contracts and=20 > pleadings, nothing "scientific" there. Sometimes I will export to > utf-8 text file, so I can copy and paste into "those other" document > formats. (Sorry to say, but most of the US legal community is still > MS Word and WordPerfect oriented.) I believe that I can eventually > use Org-Babel for reproducible "research", research being more other > than scientific. For me, Org-mode is /mainly/ a planner, outliner, scheduler, clocking device and a tool to write blog posts. I use Org spreadsheets just a little bit. As I mentioned, I work heavily with LaTeX (and beamer), but do not use Org-mode for that (maybe apart from the initial stage) -- I am comfortable with LaTeX (using AUCTeX, of course), so Org-mode export does nothing for me. This seems to confirm that Org is quite flexible and can be adapted to a variety of workflows. Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University