From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Karl Maihofer Subject: How to use headlines and lists in Org to structure your thoughts? Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:13:25 +0100 Message-ID: <20101214181325.141033ikbnfst1og@webmail.df.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49878 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PSYRU-0001o2-O9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:13:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PSYRL-0002zK-0Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:13:36 -0500 Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de ([80.67.18.14]:39653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PSYRK-0002yz-O5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:13:26 -0500 Received: from [80.67.16.114] (helo=webmailfront03.ispgateway.de) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1PSYRJ-0005Yz-E5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:13:25 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org The ongoing discussion about inline tasks and drawers withhin lists much depends on the way you use Org, I think. Perhaps it is a good idea to brainstorm some fundamental aspects in regard to headlines and lists. Why and in which situations do we use lists? I use lists a lot to write down my thoughts. I think there are mainly two reasons for this: - Headlines are exported as headlines, not as list items. ;-) - In Headlines you do not have word wrap. So you always have to phrase a headline and then write your text below this headline. For me it is much easier to use lists and write, write, write... with word wrap. I think these are the reasons for me to use lists a lot. But if I do so, I cannot define tasks in my texts - the core concept of Org. To solve this dilemma, I can think of two different approaches: 1. Make it possible to use inline tasks withhin lists. This is what Nicolas implemented (thanks a lot!!!) and what works very well. But it is not a "nice" concept. We discussed this already and I understand the reasons why Carsten and Nicolas himself have reservations. It it only a workaround. 2. Make headlines behave like list items. This means enabling word wrap for headlines and export the headlines as lists. If a headline should be exported as a headline you could use a tag :HEADLINE:. If this would be possible, I cannot see a reason why I should make such extensive use of lists. What do you think? How do you use lists? Do you think the second approach would make sense? Or do I miss something essential? Regards, Karl