Using Alt as Meta

Using Alt as Meta

[Dan Davison]

I came across org-mode a couple of weeks ago. I'm really impressed: it looks excellent, useful, and like it will take me some time before I've worked out how best to use it. But I think I will carry on using it fairly seriously, so thanks very much Carsten for something that looks like it's going to be really useful.

I suspect I'm going to have quite a few questions for this list but I'm going to start off with something trivial and/or a stupid question.

Prior to installing org-mode, it had always been my understanding that in my set-up the Alt key provided the function of 'Meta' (e.g. I always use <Alt-x> some-emacs-function [RET])
Why is is that I have to use <Esc-Right> for org-metaright, and <Alt-Right> brings up the message: '<A-right> is undefined'? What's an appropriate way to
tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation?

Thanks!

Dan

Re: Using Alt as Meta

[Chris Leyon]

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>  Why is is that I have to use <Esc-Right> for org-metaright, and <Alt-Right> brings up the message: '<A-right> is undefined'? What's an appropriate way to
>  tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation?
>  Thanks!
>  Dan

Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs

Re: Using Alt as Meta

[Dan Davison]

On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:46:17PM -0400, Chris Leyon wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >  Why is is that I have to use <Esc-Right> for org-metaright, and <Alt-Right> brings up the message: '<A-right> is undefined'? What's an appropriate way to
> >  tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation?
> >  Thanks!
> >  Dan
> 
> Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs

Thanks, but that hasn't made a difference that I can see. <Alt-x> still functions as M-x but <Alt-Right/Left/Up/Down> bring up a message saying they're undefined,.
I should have said, this is under

GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-06 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu
Org-mode version 5.23a
Ubuntu
Linux Tichodroma 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

Dan

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Re: Using Alt as Meta

[J. David Boyd]

Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:

> On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:46:17PM -0400, Chris Leyon wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >  Why is is that I have to use <Esc-Right> for org-metaright, and <Alt-Right> brings up the message: '<A-right> is undefined'? What's an appropriate way to
>> >  tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation?
>> >  Thanks!
>> >  Dan
>> 
>> Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs
>
> Thanks, but that hasn't made a difference that I can see. <Alt-x> still functions as M-x but <Alt-Right/Left/Up/Down> bring up a message saying they're undefined,.
> I should have said, this is under
>
> GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-06 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu
> Org-mode version 5.23a
> Ubuntu
> Linux Tichodroma 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> Dan
>

What does C-h k show for those keys?  

For example, under my emacs running under cygwin under windows vista (I know, yuck), 

C-h k follwed by <Alt-key right arrow> shows

<M-right> runs the command forward-word


Dave

Re: Re: Using Alt as Meta

[Dan Davison]

On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:41:22AM -0500, J. David Boyd wrote:
> Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:46:17PM -0400, Chris Leyon wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> >  Why is is that I have to use <Esc-Right> for org-metaright, and <Alt-Right> brings up the message: '<A-right> is undefined'? What's an appropriate way to
> >> >  tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation?
> >> >  Thanks!
> >> >  Dan
> >> 
> >> Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs
> >
> > Thanks, but that hasn't made a difference that I can see. <Alt-x> still functions as M-x but <Alt-Right/Left/Up/Down> bring up a message saying they're undefined,.
> > I should have said, this is under
> >
> > GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-06 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu
> > Org-mode version 5.23a
> > Ubuntu
> > Linux Tichodroma 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
> >
> > Dan
> >
> 
> What does C-h k show for those keys?  
> 
> For example, under my emacs running under cygwin under windows vista (I know, yuck), 
> 
> C-h k follwed by <Alt-key right arrow> shows
> 
> <M-right> runs the command forward-word

For me it shows

<A-right> is undefined

Dan

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Re: Re: Using Alt as Meta

[Jason F. McBrayer]

Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:

> For me it shows
>
> <A-right> is undefined
>

Looks like you have your alt key mapped to alt, not to meta.  You can
change that in a number of ways; if you're running Gnome the easiest way
is through the keyboard control panel.  The default is supposed to be
that the alt key sends both alt and meta, but something may have gone
wrong in your case.

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