From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Gez" Subject: VISIBILITY property and C-u C-u Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: <1ADD256551CD486E9D4C1122FE9D7CF7@alice> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49974 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P7VN8-0000xA-1w for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:42:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7VN6-0002ZT-WF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:42:05 -0400 Received: from firefly.c1.site5.com ([174.120.98.148]:38347) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7VN6-0002ZF-T6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:42:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firefly.c1.site5.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E36024B13F for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from firefly.c1.site5.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (firefly.c1.site5.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pKwQbLiiBWC0 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alice (82-69-51-46.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.51.46]) by firefly.c1.site5.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A33E624B0B0 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:42:01 -0500 (CDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org I've just discovered the VISIBILITY property, although I had some trouble working out how to apply it .I discovered C-u C-u TAB from reading http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/6623. C-u C-u TAB is documented in the reference card but not in the manual or on worg as far as I can see - Shouldn't it be added? Also shouldn't VISIBILITY be listed with the other "special properties" in the manual etc? I'm using it to mark sub-projects (level 2,3 etc) with :VISIBILITY: folded (or :VISIBILITY: content when they also contain a sub-sub-project). When sub-projects are folded into their projects (level 1) I miss out on an overview of all projects. Using C-u C-u TAB I can see all non-level-1 headlines that I've marked because they are parents of tasks, and then I can visit them locally with TAB. It's very useful in conjunction with the counter cookie, and in column view. I have a query about the C-u C-u TAB command. When I've just edited or used S-TAB (no matter which part of the global cycle it's on) C-u C-u TAB works as I would expect. But if I've just used TAB, C-u C-u TAB cycles hrough -> CONTENTS -> SHOW ALL etc, even while the mini buffer displays "startup visibility plus VISIBILITY properties" at each stage of the cycle. C-u C-u TAB also cycles when it's repeated. I find it hard to keep track of whether it will cycle or not while I'm using it to view areas of the outline, so in effect, the only way I feel sure I can quickly return to my desired startup visibility is with S-TAB C-u C-u TAB, which is a lot of keystrokes! So my questions are - is this expected behaviour? Can it be changed? Gez Windows XP, GNU Emacs 23.2.1, Org-mode version 7.01trans