From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Raymond Zeitler Subject: Re: Tracking Interruptions -- Work Flow Question Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <182432611.922718.1502660630480@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1762394182.645329.1502589720701.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1762394182.645329.1502589720701@mail.yahoo.com> <87mv73g5bc.fsf@artlab.createcnix.lan> Reply-To: Raymond Zeitler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_922717_1097808882.1502660630478" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dh0jk-0001gs-T5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:47:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dh0jh-0008BA-Pp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:47:56 -0400 Received: from sonic331-48.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.229]:37715) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dh0jh-0008AH-9G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:47:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mv73g5bc.fsf@artlab.createcnix.lan> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Christophe Schockaert Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" ------=_Part_922717_1097808882.1502660630478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I like your setup with org-capture.=C2=A0 I think I can overcome the p= roblem of invoking the capture when someone pops in to complain that email = is down, for example.=C2=A0 I would use either AutoHotKey (I'm on Windows) = or bind a function key in Emacs to a taskerruption function for F2F issues.= =C2=A0 One or two keypresses (ALT-TAB F12), under those circumstances, woul= d not be considered rude in my environment. I used Planner for several years.=C2=A0 It had (has) a time-warp function s= o that the user could create content retroactively.=C2=A0 If all else fails= , I could schedule the taskerruption retroactively using a similar function= in org. - Ray From: Christophe Schockaert To: Raymond Zeitler =20 Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [O] Tracking Interruptions -- Work Flow Question =20 Raymond Zeitler writes: > Does anyone schedule and "org-clock" interruptions? I really need to quan= tify how much of a drain they are to my productivity. > I thought I'd include a generic "** TODO Interruption" in my todo.org (or= an inter.org file) and schedule it every day. Then I'd press "I" every tim= e I get interrupted and perhaps tag it with a special term. > Or I suppose I could use a capture template just for interruptions. > What do you suggest? I do. I have set up capture templates for phone calls, mail read/write, and general journal log. The former two, I clock-in automatically, the latter one, manually, in case I just want to log something in the course of my current activity. I use tags to identify phone calls and mails, so I could sum up their time, comparing to the whole. I don't do it though. Maybe that's why I didn't tag my "general log journal". But to achieve what you want, that's what I would do. When I handle a phone call or mail or general interruption, I usually keep the clock running until I managed all actions related to it (e.g. summarize the phone call, and scheduling any actions resulting from it), so rather than the interruption itself, I keep track of the whole time to handle it. It doesn't take into account the context switching however, as pointed out by Eric. As for the time to trig the capture... For mails, there are obviously no problems. I am eager to have my mu4e setup running to link directly to the content at the same time. For phone calls, the bell is ringing up to 3 times, so it's ok. It's when somebody comes in that it's a bit tricky to handle, because people expect your attention. I usually focus on the need to take notes to have the opportunity to start my template, where I just write write down a summary of what is said during the talking. HTH, Regards, Christophe =20 ------=_Part_922717_1097808882.1502660630478 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I like your setup with org-captu= re.  I think I can overcome the problem of invoking the capture when s= omeone pops in to complain that email is down, for example.  I would u= se either AutoHotKey (I'm on Windows) or bind a function key in Emacs to a = taskerruption function for F2F issues.  One or two keypresses (ALT-TAB= F12), under those circumstances, would not be considered rude in my enviro= nment.
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I used Planner for s= everal years.  It had (has) a time-warp function so that the user coul= d create content retroactively.  If all else fails, I could schedule t= he taskerruption retroactively using a similar function in org.

- Ray


From: Christophe Schockaert <R3vLibre@= citadels.eu>
To: Ra= ymond Zeitler <zeitra@yahoo.com>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org><= br> Sent: Sunday, August 1= 3, 2017 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [O] Tracking Interruptions -- Work Flow Question
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Raymond Zeitler w= rites:

> Does anyone schedule and "= org-clock" interruptions? I really need to quantify how much of a drain the= y are to my productivity.
> I thought I'd include a ge= neric "** TODO Interruption" in my todo.org (or an inter.org file) and sche= dule it every day. Then I'd press "I" every time I get interrupted and perh= aps tag it with a special term.
> Or I suppose I could= use a capture template just for interruptions.
> What= do you suggest?

I do.

I have set up capture templates for phone calls, mail read/write,= and
general journal log. The former two, I clock-in auto= matically, the
latter one, manually, in case I just want = to log something in the course
of my current activity.
I use tags to identify phone calls and m= ails, so I could sum up their
time, comparing to the whol= e. I don't do it though. Maybe that's why I
didn't tag my= "general log journal". But to achieve what you want,
tha= t's what I would do.

When I handle a p= hone call or mail or general interruption, I usually
keep= the clock running until I managed all actions related to it
(e.g. summarize the phone call, and scheduling any actions resultingfrom it), so rather than the interruption itself, I keep tr= ack of the
whole time to handle it. It doesn't take into = account the context
switching however, as pointed out by = Eric.

As for the time to trig the capt= ure... For mails, there are obviously no
problems. I am e= ager to have my mu4e setup running to link directly to
th= e content at the same time. For phone calls, the bell is ringing up to
3 times, so it's ok. It's when somebody comes in that it's a = bit tricky
to handle, because people expect your attentio= n. I usually focus on the
need to take notes to have the = opportunity to start my template, where I
just write writ= e down a summary of what is said during the talking.


HTH,
Regards,

Christophe
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