From: "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net>
To: dominik@science.uva.nl
Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: feature request: additional org/remember template escapes:
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:13:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18140.20150.111452.383630@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a47d9bae913411cd5ebf3268c0f54af8@science.uva.nl>
Yes, your suggested replacement for the message would be
clearer.
And thanks for the new template, org/remember is an amazing piece
of work.
>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
Carsten> On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:32, T. V. Raman wrote:
Carsten>
>> I've been using org with remember as my "Web Notebook" for
>> the last 18 months.
>>
>> I browse exclusively from Emacs as an emacspeak user (w3
>> and W3M) and this is an incredibly useful thing to have.
>>
>> The one thing that prevents me from completely satisfied
>> is the set of available template escapes -- based on what
>> is possible, entries end up looking like:
>>
>> ** [[URL]] note
>>
>> where "note" is what I typed in the remember buffer.
>>
>> Ideally I'd like the above to be :
>>
>> ** [[URL][Note]]
>>
Carsten>
Starting with 5.08, you will be able to use %A in the template.
Carsten> It will insert the link, but explicitly prompt you
Carsten> for the link description.
Carsten>
>> or even better, have the entry go in as a bullet rather
>> than a section header.
Carsten>
Carsten> This is hard, because the whole note insertion of
Carsten> remember notes is based on the outline structure.
Carsten> No action for now.
Carsten>
>> Finally, I have never understood what the "inserted at
>> level n shifted by m" message means, could we come up with
>> better wording? I feel uneasy criticizing without a better
>> suggestion, but I dont understand what it means fully, and
>> am consequently reluctant to hazard at a better phrase.
Carsten>
Carsten> A remember note is an outline entry, i.e. it has a
Carsten> first line with one or many stars. Notes are
Carsten> inserted into the existing outline structure using
Carsten> the command org-paste-subtree. The command is
Carsten> clever about adjusting the outline level of the
Carsten> inserted subtree, so that it correctly fits into the
Carsten> local hierarchy. And to make sure the user
Carsten> understands what just happened, it tells the user
Carsten> what the new outline level of the inserted item is,
Carsten> if it hat to be shifted (i.e. promoted or demoted
Carsten> but removing or adding stars) to get there. At the
Carsten> time of implementation this was more of a debugging
Carsten> feedback than anything else.
Carsten>
Carsten> I guess this is reasonably useful feedback when
Carsten> using the pasting commands explicitly, in an
Carsten> interactive way. We could turn off the message in
Carsten> non-interactive use like this (during remember
Carsten> filing note storing).
Carsten>
Carsten> For interactive use, how about the simpler:
Carsten>
Carsten> "Clipboard pasted as level N subtree"
Carsten>
Carsten> Would that be clearer?
Carsten>
Carsten> - Carsten
Carsten>
Carsten>
Carsten>
Carsten> -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton
Carsten> Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403
Carsten> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477
Carsten>
Carsten>
Carsten>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-03 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-01 4:32 feature request: additional org/remember template escapes: T. V. Raman
2007-09-03 16:06 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-03 18:13 ` T. V. Raman [this message]
2007-09-04 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-04 5:37 ` Bastien
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-04 6:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
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