From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: bug with respect to org-read-date-prefer-future Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:33:50 +0200 Message-ID: <0D933E4B-5285-4BC8-842A-739E8F97DBB7@gmail.com> References: <87eic0zuzj.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <8739sgy0de.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87vd5cpiz1.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y6a8wjkd.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51587 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P7Mog-0003On-CH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:33:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7Mof-0000n9-Ar for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:33:58 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:53480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7Mof-0000n1-5I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:33:57 -0400 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1535500ewy.0 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:33:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y6a8wjkd.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: Carsten Dominik , org-mode mailing list Hi, On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:01:49 -0400, Bernt Hansen >> wrote: >>> >>> Eric S Fraga writes: >>> >>>> Recently, but I cannot say for how long, I have found that dates >>>> entered, for instance using "j" in the standard agenda view, no >>>> longer >>>> choose a time/day in the future but seem to default to the current >>>> year. For instance, today, typing "j 2 feb RET" (with a real space >>>> between 2 and feb) jumps me to 2010 February 2, not 2011. >> >> [...] >> >>> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> This was recently changed in commit >>> 03b178d (Do not prefer future when jumping to a date in the >>> agenda, 2010-09-21) >>> by Carsten after an offline discussion with me. >>> >>> The behaviour changed for the 'j' command in the agenda only but >>> not for >>> other date prompts. >> >> Ah, okay, so I am not totally losing it... ;-) >> >>> The justification for this was at the start of a new month you >>> need to >>> enter the year to go back to a date a week or two ago in the agenda >>> which seemed inconvenient. >>> >>> Carsten noticed that I had set org-read-date-prefer-future to nil in >>> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html and questioned why that was >>> necessary. After a short discussion he decided to change the >>> default >>> behaviour for the agenda j command only. >>> >>> Please comment on whether this change is good or bad. The docstring >>> should be more clear about this change if we decide to keep it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bernt >> >> Well, I must say that I prefer the old way as it is more likely (on a >> simple probabilistic view considering the full twelve months of the >> year) that I am going to want a future date if I refer to a month >> before the current one. I can understand your justification for >> earlier in a month but I typically simply use, say, -7 or -10 then >> (as >> I use +7 or +10 say for days in the future). So, I guess my view is >> that the change is more bad than good... At the very least, I would >> like this to be configurable, if that is at all possible? If not, I >> am sure I can adjust! >> >> By the way, I guess I could see an argument for a date alone being >> for >> the current month, whether future or past, much as time can be >> considered already to be for the current day, whether future or past, >> if the variable is configured as I have it (time), but even then we >> should have a configurable variable? >> >> Regardless, the docs definitely have to change! > > Personally I'm okay with reverting this commit if it is problematic. > I'll leave the final decision on that up to Carsten. There is now a new option, org-agenda-jump-prefer-future. The default is to recycle the setting of org-read-date-prefer-future, but you can set your own specific preference as well. Cheers. - Carsten