From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43976DE0207 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 00:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.034 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.034 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bhvGOSJUKLlO for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 00:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out29-ams.mf.surf.net (out29-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.29]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 484936DE0192 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 00:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardes.nikhef.nl (tardes.nikhef.nl [192.16.199.155]) by outgoing1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id w9A7GINi015184; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:18 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tardes.nikhef.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FB61010D79; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nikhef.nl Received: from tardes.nikhef.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tardes.nikhef.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id e-_aJ2jnfagl; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (535166C1.cm-6-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [83.81.102.193]) (Authenticated sender: templon) by tardes.nikhef.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44BCE1010EF8; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Jeff Templon To: Carl Worth , Daniel Kahn Gillmor Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: tell me how to do this right (mail sent to lists) In-Reply-To: <87efcyok18.fsf@wondoo.home.cworth.org> References: <87in2bm7bs.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <87efcyok18.fsf@wondoo.home.cworth.org> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:13 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: nikhef-out:default, nikhef:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.16.199.155; country=NL; latitude=52.3824; longitude=4.8995; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3824,4.8995&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: nikhef-out:default (inherits from nikhef:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0uWJHgi02 - 9fd09960b15c - 20181010 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 07:16:29 -0000 Hi, Thanks again for the answers. Carl Worth writes: > If the two messages have the same message ID, then as far as notmuch is > concerned that is just a single message, (that happens to be backed by > multiple files). OK. > You're certainly not the only one. Hopefully, what you really want > doesn't require the ability to maintain separate tags for these two > very-similar messages, (since notmuch cannot do that currently). I wasn't clear - I don't need different tags. I do want the list-associated tags, even if it only shows me the "sent copy". > I guess the question I have is: What has given you the idea that afew is > tagging one message but not the other? Well, this: medina:~> notmuch search --output=files id:m25zyb89im.fsf@simeto.nikhef.nl /Users/templon/Maildir/Nikhef/Sent/cur/1539098270.M625625000P91131Q71R9d5148db.dhcp-134-239.nikhef.nl:2,S /Users/templon/Maildir/Nikhef/Unclassified Bulk/cur/1539098271.M415561000P91131Q113R5b534386.dhcp-134-239.nikhef.nl:2, medina:~> notmuch search --output=tags id:m25zyb89im.fsf@simeto.nikhef.nl sent So the one in "Sent" is, well, sent :-) The other one (Unclassified Bulk) is the one from the list. There are no list-associated tags. Hence my conclusion is that notmuch and/or afew encounters first the sent copy (maybe because S comes before U?) and tags it, then, when encountering the second file while processing, says in essence "oh i already have this message ID - skip". JT