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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org Sender: "notmuch" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (body hash did not verify) header.d=iki.fi header.s=lahtoruutu header.b=B0V5gQiC; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 50.126.95.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Spam-Score: 3.49 X-TUID: 8RPxQNRk91d2 On Sat, Jun 20 2020, Ralph Seichter wrote: > * Tomi Ollila: > >> imo.the completions should primarily provide convenience to the >> interactive user, to see all possible options (also those >> seldomly.used) one can use help and namual pages... > > "Can use" being the operative term, not "should have to use". I would > not want completion to omit certain commands, based on somebody else's > notion of what is convenient, which in turn forces me to use other means > of figuring out a seldom-used command I may or may not be aware of. > > If this means entering three characters instead of two, then three > characters it is. Alternatively, make it a configurable option, with > "convenient=false" being the default. I vote against the change. > > First world problems... ;-) Indeed! You're wrong and I am right... ;) unfortunately the margin is too small and status quo (i.e. what we have now) may prevail. (well, I haven't even installed the completions -- perhaps I write my own zsh completions which will expand 'notmuch s' -> 'notmuch search' ;D) -- note that I also have no notmuch-* commands in my PATH, so 'notm' expands to 'notmuch ' ! \o/ FTW ;) > > -Ralph Tomi (one random user like all of us)