From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE882431FD0 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cPdCvPWr3KrE for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EF07431FB6 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yhjj52 with SMTP id j52so4784811yhj.26 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.128.242 with SMTP id f78mr10673412yhi.7.1324234770895; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f53.google.com (mail-qw0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm25430428yhl.15.2011.12.18.10.59.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadb15 with SMTP id b15so3541818qad.5 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.96.72 with SMTP id g8mr21358766qan.56.1324234768990; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.83.201 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:59:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [alot] Introducing myself, asking various questions From: Krzysztof Ilowiecki To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:59:32 -0000 Hello summary: I'm new, would like to help, have lots of ideas, some time and some python. The list welcome message invites to introducing myself, so I shall comply, even if this appears to be some configuration relic ;) I'm using the [alot] tag as it looks to be what I'm most likely to contribute to. I'm sysadmin/programmer and a physics student. I've been writing anything significant in Python for only a year now, but have previous experience with C. I prefer to contribute in Python, though. I've been a vim user for nearly eight years, though only recently did I start using things like macros or global commands and writing functions. My experience of email is that I hated it until I started using Gmail in 2004. Since then I merely dislike it :) Or rather, I dislike the MUAs. notmuch has made a very good impression on me and I would like to migrate to it away from gmail. I happen to have some time available now. I understand it is quite hard to provide an overview for newcomers of the state of a rapidly developing project. Please correct me if the following assertions are wrong: * emacs frontend is the most mature, enough for quite some people to use it as their primary MUA * alot is second, but is rather ambitious and very far from '1.0' * I could use it without a need to fall back to the emacs one * vim frontend is interesting, quite a bit less complete, and stalled * curses-notmuch is dead I would like to try and help writing a python terminal vim-friendly client. Alot seems like by far the bast candidate, however I have the impression that it may be trying to do too much for my needs, which may be peculiar. I have installed offlineimap+notmuch+alot on a slow laptop running Debian wheezy. It is looking good with a testing account and I'm considering connecting it to live accounts. How likely is it to mess things up in IMAP? I understand synchronisation across machines and with IMAP is something of an issue so far. How bad would it be to use git for that - and for 'undo'? It would appear some people use git+maildir even instead of IMAP, but I guess the notmuch's database may be completely unsuitable... Does alot have some sort of the design documentation, sketched vision it is heading towards? I think I should write down my ideas before I get too entangled in the implementation details, it would be good to know if something like this is already available. Kris I=C5=82owiecki