From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B3B431FAF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:15:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TIXVmup1Apd1 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f53.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 459D2431FAE for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lahc1 with SMTP id c1so2035200lah.26 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:15:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qvuPXUx5DZB7yU0UIXtkkPhbx72J39t81znuRo1fx9s=; b=ANUs5yZvsB7yV6yO+uuLlc/0VabR2FOMSgB4731hRGZbzOf0H6oE+eD+p1p9Puc1lI 0PGK7RhNL3ge7eXT9/+mEiqz3mvz7JbD9pxomaOzL2O/IdPnJZf0fShRPujc1MVNnZlr wgkrsE6iU0Gx6UocZFlWCl45JaPZEj0MqUATuRLayfnYVA+kycszHlHa9NLOjhpxuRsn n96jNrLb6mD/HIjsJQoHl+T80OpXLcFMzeGjuaLZyh4k3iy1gVUWi1BtjgQM50GrUmdp 2eBiM83qWgfPhYmMu19Ln36UCD5DBJ+PyH6By7WC6WqQWaYgYG076XVV0tQ4zDygqGQP Yh2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.129.74 with SMTP id nu10mr21127591lab.50.1332990911133; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: awg@xvx.ca Received: by 10.112.29.137 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:15:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [96.52.216.56] Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:15:10 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: y3_JFGGaZKohdZ0-x6slw9JSOd0 Message-ID: Subject: emacs: Function `remove-if' from cl package called at runtime From: Adam Wolfe Gordon To: Notmuch Mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQllt1cJvse4LVrFTrkMVigcbW89B9QFLbn9TZMPd1IP46xfAg4G6ZufaaP/mr0k2XTV9kpM X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:15:16 -0000 Hi everyone, As I was fixing the Refrences bug tonight (patch forthcoming), I introduced another usage of a cl library function that produces the warning from emacs: Warning: Function `remove-if' from cl package called at runtime Reading a bit about this warning, it sounds like the reason for it is that remove-if et al. are functions, so they can be replaced by some other package, and the emacs folks don't want packages included with emacs to use them because they would then break if the functions were redefined. Are we worried about this in notmuch? It seems to me like it's mostly political, but I'm pretty new to the emacs lisp world. I remember that some time ago it was decided that we were OK with using functions the cl library where it improves code quality. What do we think of using functions that cause the "called at runtime" warning? -- Adam Wolfe Gordon