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On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine
<wael.nasreddine@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I didn't see the previous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It
> looks like you guys have your hands full and everything setup the way you
> like it, so here's what I'll do myself (if it's acceptable with you,
> otherwise I'll just remove everything):
>
> - Revert my changes (except for the CI)
> - Set a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting
> to fork.
> - Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki
> - Add a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page
> - Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and maybe
> automate it later.
>

Can you guys at least consider splitting contrib/ and bindings/ into their
own repo? It will make it easier for people to use the go bindings (for
example) or to include the vim plugin as a submodule (or Vundle bundle).


>
> For the automatic pusher, I'll have to skip the README changes.
>
> Wael
>
>
> On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo <guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:
>> > On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> [...]
>> > >> Any thoughts on moving to Github?
>> > > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org
>> > Exactly!
>>
>> it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-)
>>
>> > >> I took the liberty of making the first move by
>> > >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and
>> binding/
>> > >> into their own repository (conserving all their history).
>> > > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch
>> > > repository.
>> > Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort
>> > of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece
>> > of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,
>> > especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is
>> > somewhat high-handed.
>>
>>     well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distributed,  I see
>> no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well  as on
>> gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:
>>
>> *mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository*
>>
>>     and that the README.md starts by giving where the official  repo is,
>> and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull
>> requests. A good thing would be to have it  automatically  kept  in sync
>> with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create
>> a post-receive hook on the principal repository.
>>
>>     As a nice  side  effect  of  doing  this,  we'll  stop  having users
>> complain  about  "not  being  on  github"...  Even  though  they  should
>> understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being  able to
>> track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.
>>
>> my 2 cents,
>>
>> --
>> Guyzmo
>> _______________________________________________
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>> notmuch@notmuchmail.org
>> http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
>>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, May 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:wael.nasreddine@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wael.nasreddine@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>I didn&#39;t see the previ=
ous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It looks like you guys hav=
e your hands full and everything setup the way you like it, so here&#39;s w=
hat I&#39;ll do myself (if it&#39;s acceptable with you, otherwise I&#39;ll=
 just remove everything):</div>

<div><br></div><div>- Revert my changes (except for the CI)</div><div>- Set=
 a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to fork=
.</div><div>- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki</div><div>- Add =
a &quot;mirror of ..&quot; to the description on top of the page</div>

<div>- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and ma=
ybe automate it later.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Can you guys at least consider splitting contrib/ and bi=
ndings/ into their own repo? It will make it easier for people to use the g=
o bindings (for example) or to include the vim plugin as a submodule (or Vu=
ndle bundle).</span></div>

<div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-l=
eft-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>For the automatic pus=
her, I&#39;ll have to skip the README changes.</div>

<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div>=
<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888">Wael</font></span><div><div class=
=3D"h5"><br><br><div>On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:guyzmo%2Bnotmuch@m0g.net" target=3D"_blank">guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:</div>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:<br>
&gt; On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
jani@nikula.org" target=3D"_blank">jani@nikula.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wael.n=
asreddine@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wael.nasreddine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
[...]<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Any thoughts on moving to Github?<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org" target=
=3D"_blank">http://mid.gmane.org/<u></u>87wqea7c3<u></u>7.fsf@nikula.org</a=
><br>
&gt; Exactly!<br>
<br>
it feels like there&#39;s an echo in the room ;-)<br>
<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I took the liberty of making the first move by<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; creating <a href=3D"https://github.com/notmuch" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://github.com/notmuch</a> and splitting the contrib/ and binding/=
<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; into their own repository (conserving all their history).<br>
&gt; &gt; I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch<=
br>
&gt; &gt; repository.<br>
&gt; Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort<br>
&gt; of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece<b=
r>
&gt; of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,<br>
&gt; especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is<br>
&gt; somewhat high-handed.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 well, because of git&#39;s fundamental feature to be distribu=
ted, =C2=A0I see<br>
no reason why notmuch couldn&#39;t have a *mirror* on github, as well =C2=
=A0as on<br>
gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:<br>
<br>
*mirror of the <a href=3D"http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch" target=3D=
"_blank">http://git.notmuchmail.org/<u></u>git<u></u>/notmuch</a> repositor=
y*<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and that the README.md starts by giving where the official =
=C2=A0repo is,<br>
and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull<br=
>
requests. A good thing would be to have it =C2=A0automatically =C2=A0kept =
=C2=A0in sync<br>
with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create<br=
>
a post-receive hook on the principal repository.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As a nice =C2=A0side =C2=A0effect =C2=A0of =C2=A0doing =C2=A0=
this, =C2=A0we&#39;ll =C2=A0stop =C2=A0having users<br>
complain =C2=A0about =C2=A0&quot;not =C2=A0being =C2=A0on =C2=A0github&quot=
;... =C2=A0Even =C2=A0though =C2=A0they =C2=A0should<br>
understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being =C2=A0able =
to<br>
track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.<br>
<br>
my 2 cents,<br>
<br>
--<br>
Guyzmo<br>
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k">http://notmuchmail.org/<u></u>mailman<u></u>/listinfo/notmuch</a><br>
</blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><di=
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