From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F044431FAE for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I+7QxuR4wcFc for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 699D4431FC0 for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wn1so3667409obc.13 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 12:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=SitBJyri+lQPMgRNH7xBG3poJNes9s51R4aq10o7MFY=; b=lIfl1SAVkpGf02lp4EoU+qhSUgvmoOOVFpYte/Ckr6KjS680QLPKsxowFWCY3oxMM9 iiLyaejMexCNAVx70KO809wmQXvtue0eEfApfSgfPgO6hZWXKyyYAoT5DbuOsLteV91f SHhD30CROlw9tjRO9rltq7/moB8zcckrVqhuVgEnx/VgT6/+AFbcB8EUHaV4v8Ci8u// cTfUktn6AgeuycEZfuuoIBgo5el0bQLUXZ+2xxCzWo8oybEZ5S/CiedI2rpkcIGCWbMt tTKl1S1BqIzmf0yJkFMJQBruLaDWiiDuoJ9uRLhychHUZzwxXKwakHknn4Y6WStGYEiP 0QFQ== X-Received: by 10.182.29.225 with SMTP id n1mr8081943obh.2.1399578878796; Thu, 08 May 2014 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87iopgkaiz.fsf@nikula.org> <20140508101325.GC23124@vilya.m0g.net> From: Wael Nasreddine Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 19:54:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Github? To: guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net, notmuch@notmuchmail.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2da9ce9258c04f8e8d915 X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 19:54:50 -0000 --001a11c2da9ce9258c04f8e8d915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi everyone, I didn't see the previous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It looks like you guys have your hands full and everything setup the way you like it, so here's what I'll do myself (if it's acceptable with you, otherwise I'll just remove everything): - Revert my changes (except for the CI) - Set a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to fork. - Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki - Add a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page - Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and maybe automate it later. For the automatic pusher, I'll have to skip the README changes. Wael On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote: > > On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > > > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine > wrote: > [...] > > >> Any thoughts on moving to Github? > > > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org > > Exactly! > > it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-) > > > >> I took the liberty of making the first move by > > >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and > binding/ > > >> into their own repository (conserving all their history). > > > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch > > > repository. > > Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort > > of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece > > of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback, > > especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is > > somewhat high-handed. > > well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distributed, I see > no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well as on > gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly: > > *mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository* > > and that the README.md starts by giving where the official repo is, > and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull > requests. A good thing would be to have it automatically kept in sync > with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create > a post-receive hook on the principal repository. > > As a nice side effect of doing this, we'll stop having users > complain about "not being on github"... Even though they should > understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being able to > track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github. > > my 2 cents, > > -- > Guyzmo > _______________________________________________ > notmuch mailing list > notmuch@notmuchmail.org > http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch > --001a11c2da9ce9258c04f8e8d915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone,

I didn't see the previous email about i= t, thank you Jani for the link. It looks like you guys have your hands full= and everything setup the way you like it, so here's what I'll do m= yself (if it's acceptable with you, otherwise I'll just remove ever= ything):

- Revert my changes (except for the CI)
- Set= a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to fork= .
- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki
- Add = a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page
- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and ma= ybe automate it later.

For the automatic pusher, I= 'll have to skip the README changes.

Wael

On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo <guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net> wrote:
Hi,

On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com> wr= ote:
[...]
> >> Any thoughts on moving to Github?
> > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org
> Exactly!

it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-)

> >> I took the liberty of making the first move by
> >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and binding/=
> >> into their own repository (conserving all their history).
> > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch<= br> > > repository.
> Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort
> of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece > of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,
> especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is
> somewhat high-handed.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distribu= ted, =C2=A0I see
no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well =C2= =A0as on
gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:

*mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository*

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and that the README.md starts by giving where the official = =C2=A0repo is,
and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull requests. A good thing would be to have it =C2=A0automatically =C2=A0kept = =C2=A0in sync
with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create a post-receive hook on the principal repository.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As a nice =C2=A0side =C2=A0effect =C2=A0of =C2=A0doing =C2=A0= this, =C2=A0we'll =C2=A0stop =C2=A0having users
complain =C2=A0about =C2=A0"not =C2=A0being =C2=A0on =C2=A0github"= ;... =C2=A0Even =C2=A0though =C2=A0they =C2=A0should
understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being =C2=A0able = to
track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.

my 2 cents,

--
Guyzmo
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