From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCB76DE023D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:53:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ouUjdWOhQqBh for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out42-ams.mf.surf.net (out42-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.42]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41CC06DE0197 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardes.nikhef.nl (tardes.nikhef.nl [192.16.199.155]) by outgoing2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id w99Kr5V3016113; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:53:05 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tardes.nikhef.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2367101140B; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:53:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nikhef.nl Received: from tardes.nikhef.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tardes.nikhef.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QIJ5N4yEyUKt; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.11] (535166C1.cm-6-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [83.81.102.193]) (Authenticated sender: templon) by tardes.nikhef.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E1C71011404; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:53:17 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jeff Templon" To: "Daniel Kahn Gillmor" Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: tell me how to do this right (mail sent to lists) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 22:53:06 +0200 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.12r5523) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87in2bm7bs.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> References: <87in2bm7bs.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: nikhef-out:default, nikhef:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.16.199.155; country=NL; latitude=52.3824; longitude=4.8995; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3824,4.8995&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: nikhef-out:default (inherits from nikhef:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0vWJwR5a7 - 0a57f5eb075e - 20181009 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:53:30 -0000 Hi Daniel, Thanks for answering! On 9 Oct 2018, at 18:08, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > notmuch doesn't "skip" anything -- it just knows that they are the > same > e-mail due to message-id matching. it actually indexes both texts. > you > can see this with: > > notmuch search --output=files id:$MESSAGEID > Indeed - with the command line tool in this form, I do see both files. Read on :-) >> I'd prefer to have both, but if I have to pick one or the other, I'd >> actually prefer to have the second one, as I'd then have >> >> [ pdp ] >> >> as the start of the subject header for ALL mails to that list, and as >> an >> added bonus, afew (should?) then tag them with the list name making >> them >> easily searchable. > > I'd recommend doing your tagging based on something other than a > substring of the subject line -- wouldn't tagging based on the > recipient > of the message (To: or Cc:) be sufficient to group your mailing list > messages under one heading, regardless of which variant notmuch > chooses > to prefer? So here’s the deal : I am tagging with afew, it has a special mailing list filter, which does the right thing - it tags the copy that was delivered from the mailing list with the list name. However (and maybe this is just the Emacs interface?) when I view the message in notmuch-emacs, it only shows one of them, and this seems to be (always? at least usually) the copy that is Fcc’d to my sent folder and tagged only with “sent” because it doesn’t have a list-id yet. So I’m still looking for how to do this “right”. I must not be the only one that sends mails to mailing lists? JT