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Anderson" , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: PATCH [1/2] mail user agent In-Reply-To: References: <87k0nuhfrk.fsf@toryanderson.com> <87pmxjt14b.fsf@tethera.net> Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 20:33:47 -0300 Message-ID: <87zgwalbqc.fsf@tethera.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: MNULAMYC4TCYOY7QCPOZZI2LRC3YGNR7 X-Message-ID-Hash: MNULAMYC4TCYOY7QCPOZZI2LRC3YGNR7 X-MailFrom: david@tethera.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-notmuch.notmuchmail.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." 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Tory, did you try the eval-after-load trick I mentioned btw? That seemed to work in my testing, and I'm just not sure that customizing a notmuch-* variable is much less annoying than adding an eval-after-load to reset the variable after notmuch messes with it. Still waiting for feedback from notmuch users that actually use M-x compose-mail or other similar generic entry points. d