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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org Sender: "notmuch" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: 1.99 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (body hash did not verify) header.d=caltech.edu header.s=selector2 header.b=rKr+X6g4; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org designates 50.126.95.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [1.99 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.46237356697627]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 27017(-0.18), country: US(-0.00), ip: 50.126.95.6(-0.46)]; R_DKIM_REJECT(1.00)[caltech.edu:s=selector2]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[50.126.95.6:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; ARC_REJECT(2.00)[signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:microsoft.com:reject}]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: notmuchmail.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[caltech.edu:-]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[50.126.95.6:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:27017, ipnet:50.126.64.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[jrollins@caltech.edu,notmuch-bounces@notmuchmail.org]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[76.91.54.61:received]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[notmuchmail.org:email,tethera.net:email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; SPF_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[-0.45758721566198]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[notmuch@notmuchmail.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[caltech.edu]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: 7nsJhKv7NFkq On Wed, Apr 29 2020, David Bremner wrote: > I guess I'm a bit leery of removing UI features that presumably at least > some people rely on. It's pretty upsetting to have sofware break one's > muscle memory. I dare say there are few people that have muscle memory for the notmuch command line (especially for notmuch show), and fewer that aren't themselves developers...