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From: Leo Gaspard <notmuchmail.org@leo.gaspard.io>
To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: Mail to self
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:31:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87va5ma5o7.fsf@llwynog.ekleog.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2gbqhz8.fsf@tethera.net>

> After a discussion on IRC, my understanding is the following. The
> underlying behaviour that Leo is objecting to is that if any one file
> with a given message-id has the ,S maildir flag, then when notmuch syncs
> maildir flags to tags, it will remove the unread tag from that
> message-id. After some back and forth and thinking about it, I think
> notmuch's current behaviour is actually correct (given the constraint
> that tags attach to message-ids). You could argue for different ways of
> resolving conflicts for maildir flags in general, but the ",S" or "seen"
> flag has fairly natural common sense semantics.

I can confirm this is my issue. My thinking is that if any file does not
have the ,S maildir flag, then I would prefer the mail to be marked as
unread, as a read mail that is spuriously marked as unread is a small
inconvenience, while an unread mail that is spuriously marked as read
can have huge consequences.

Actually, I just noticed while writing this mail that I had setup a
sieve filter for duplicate email that put them in a “Duplicate” folder
and automatically marks them as “read”, so that at the same time they
wouldn't bother me in the thunderbird interface but I could still check
dovecot's duplicate detection didn't have false positives.

This behaviour of notmuch thus made me miss 9 emails in the 2 weeks I've
been using it, the oldest being 12 days ago, without any warning. Well,
now I know about it and can try to change my setup (except I can't
really touch this sieve filter as other people rely on it), but…

If this is a willing choice, I'd be glad were it revisited :)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-28  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-27 11:48 Mail to self Leo Gaspard
2018-10-27 19:58 ` David Bremner
2018-10-28  7:31   ` Leo Gaspard [this message]
2018-10-28 12:04     ` Gregor Zattler
2018-10-28 15:14       ` Leo Gaspard
2018-10-30 16:45       ` Leo Gaspard
2018-10-30 16:49       ` Leo Gaspard
2018-10-30 17:15         ` [PATCH 0/1] notmuch: be conservative and prefer marking too many messages as unread than too few notmuchmail.org
2018-10-30 17:15           ` [PATCH 1/1] " notmuchmail.org

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